• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Law Enforcement should be a profession, just like doctors and nurses.

    Formal education. Licensing with a college whose role is to protect the public. Malpractice insurance. Requirements to remain current, and eligible to practice.

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          2 months ago

          In the civilized world cops get arrested when they kill civilians, they still kills civilians of course but at least they get arrested when they do it.

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          2 months ago

          you are probably considering some places to be civilized when they really shouldnt

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        I wouldn’t necessarily call it civilized world, but yeah for basically every country that belongs to the so called “1st world” except the US it is and it takes a few years to become a police officer.

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        2 months ago

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        2 months ago

        If you’re curious about the downvotes, I imagine it’s because you didn’t really state why you stand by your stance.

        As really it’s a pointless comment that adds nothing to the discussion.

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      How would you feel about police making $200,000 {or more since they will need hazard pay} a year to drive around and or sit in a car. There is no way a city could afford to hire enough cops to patrol a city. Yes they should have to learn the laws they enforce and carry liability insurance but there is no way we should force them into doctor/nurse level education without equal pay.

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          2 months ago

          Hell, how much do they think doctors make? My friend is a doctor and his wife is a vet, I’m pretty sure combined they don’t make that much

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            They might have a ton of student loan debt (+vets don’t make much) so their after-loan income is fairly modest.

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        Why on earth would you assume 200k? I’ve seen a lot of misused rhetorical terms but this is a textbook strawman falicy.

        Police officers make anywhere from 43k to 63k based on a quick Google, getting massive pay bumps as they are promoted up to over 100k for police chiefs, not to mention hazard pay and usually amazing benefits. Nurses make 56k to 88k, also generally with really good benefits and a lot of overtime. It would only be a 10-20k pay bump and I would love that if it meant fewer cops with much more professional training.

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          These are some really low numbers, probably from tiny towns with no resources. Police officers (and RNs) in cities make six figures easily.

          Police especially are public servants and their pay is public. Just look it up in your area. It’s very common for regular officers to make six figures with overtime.

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          Yeah but for teachers it’s not a problem for the sort of people who want that particular job to actually get it. For cops I’d rather the people who inherently want to be cops to be outcompeted by a larger applicant pool and have to get some other job.

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              I’m working with the premise of the above comment that it’s fine, to disagree with another aspect of what it says. You’re right that I don’t know anything about the state of education recruitment, but I don’t think that translates into an argument that cops don’t need to be paid much.

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        Meh, where I live police are paid a little bit over the median wage, and they have to get a bachelor’s degree (~3 years) in law enforcement before they can work as a police.