Don’t get me wrong, I like Firefox a lot, but needs polishing.

I like -impopular opinion- the Proton UI (aka rounded tabs), containers are great, but has some flaws:

  • No PWA support
  • Bookmarks and history panels are unpractical (menus for both options are almost unusable)
  • A separate window for downloads, managing bookmarks? Really?
  • Pocket by default?

We need alternatives to Chromium, and Firefox is the “go to” option, but sometimes is disappointing to use it.

  • Ben
    23·
    2 years ago

    Your choice.

    • PWA’s aren’t really a thing. Linux, we has a nice ‘Progressive Webapp’ manager - so I can create PWA’s with launchers for any website, using any browser. I think I have about 4 (Shopee/Lazada/Translate/PlexWeb).

    9/10 times I just open the bookmarks in Firefox…

    • Not sure what your issue is with Bookmarks or History - but they’re perfectly usable. Perhaps you’re just fixed in your ways.

    • You can turn off Pocket. Even when it’s on, it’s not a problem - but Firefox has to have some revenue channels and many folks don’t have any problem with Pocket. I use RSS, so I don’t.

  • gadgetzombie@feddit.nl
    19·
    2 years ago

    Eh to each their own, I see almost all those as positives. No problems with bookmark manager. Agreed on pocket though.

  • monobot
    191·
    2 years ago

    The only real problem you mentioned is no PWA which is easy solvable by: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/

    same like pocket and downloads window.

    Yeah, other people use Firefox too, it is not made just for you and your preferences. But what is different than in Chrome - you can easily change it. It would take you less time than writing this post.

    Firefox comes with easy to disable Pocket, Chrome comes with impossible to disable Google. And Pocket is a problem? Lol :D

  • r2dj@kbin.social
    131·
    2 years ago

    I don’t get a lot of the negative sentiment here. To me Firefox is vastly superior to Chrome. Mozilla refactored and optimized performance years ago, which fixed many issues I had back then. It’s open source, not driven by the interest of gathering data for the purpose of selling ads. I’ve set it up in exactly the way I like with some extensions and customizations that aren’t possible in the Google browser. I can have hundreds and hundreds of tabs open without my computer grinding down to a halt. Is it perfect and aren’t there things that can be improved? No. But it’s pretty near to me.

    • JickleMithers@kbin.social
      4·
      2 years ago

      It has been locking up on me but that’s not gonna stop me from using it. It’s honestly probably my fault with the dumb decision to install win11. I’ll probably wipe and go back to win10 while I still can but it has been buggier than usual on win11. Still love it though, fuck chrome.

  • 0xtero@kbin.social
    10·
    2 years ago

    Two of the main features I need from my browser (apart from rendering pages) are the ability to run adblocker and being able to sync my tabs between desktop and mobile. The future of the first seems very uncertain with Chrome and the second never really works when I try it. On Firefox it’s 100% every time.

    So easy choice. And I don’t have to deal with Google’s shadyness.
    But each to their own really - the “browser wars” seem so far in the past.

  • MarshReaper@lemmy.tf
    82·
    2 years ago

    Yeah. From what I have read, it seems Firefox has progressively gotten worse over the years. I am fine with using it, especially being able to get away from the other horrible choices.

    I use Librewolf on my main computer, but on any other I disable some about:config settings.

  • rosnovsky@kbin.social
    6·
    2 years ago

    I give Mozilla a pass for a lot of stuff that’s… how do I put it?.. let’s say, “quirky” in Firefox. And I’m willing to experience minor inconveniences every now and then knowing that I’m not using a Chromium-based browser.

    With this being said, I really (and I mean really) like FF Developer Edition.

    • monobot
      3·
      2 years ago

      Can you expand on what do you like in Developer Edition? Or maybe you have some link with differences?

  • kr0n
    5·
    2 years ago

    I dont know what you feel that need to be polished but Firefox looks great to me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • mvmike
    4·
    2 years ago

    Hey, I also did not like the separate window for downloads and preferred a tab, there is an easy trick to avoid it, just add a bookmark with the URL about:downloads and it’s done (been using it for years)

  • realitista@lemm.ee
    4·
    2 years ago

    I don’t understand what could possibly be worse about bookmarks in Firefox? You have every option, you can put a bookmark bar, bookmark sidebar (great to bring up any time with control-B), or the full manager (which I pretty much never use), or just a bookmark menu (which I also never use, but it’s like any other bookmark menu IMO).

  • farmer_bobathan
    3·
    2 years ago

    While Firefox doesn’t natively have PWA support there is an addon that I use to add PWA support to Firefox. You have to install a helper program on your computer for it to work though so follow the installation instructions.

  • pilot@kbin.social
    2·
    2 years ago

    I don’t see Pocket anymore on FF. It irritated me, so I eradicated it through the settings somehow. Took a bit of time to figure it out. FF has been fine for me except for a few edge cases where I need to use Chrome.

    • pragma@kbin.social
      2·
      2 years ago

      I’ve been using Firefox for the past 20ish(?) years now, I never had an issue with Pocket. Isn’t that a service you have to sign up for anyway? If you don’t, then it’s just an inactive icon on the toolbar. I don’t see how people can be bothered by that so what am I missing?

      P.S: I just noticed that there isn’t even an icon now unless you manually sign up for pocket

      • TheAngryBad@kbin.social
        1·
        2 years ago

        it’s just an inactive icon on the toolbar

        I got rid of my icon ages ago - one of the great strengths to me is the ability to customise the taskbar as you see fit, you can remove literally any icon you don’t want there. Even the URL/search box if you want.

        About the only time I see anything pocket related is when FF updates and there’s some blurb about it in the ‘new features’ page. Otherwise I pretty much forget it exists.

        • pragma@kbin.social
          1·
          2 years ago

          Exactly. I was referring to it as an “inactive icon” in the context of a user that doesn’t bother customizing their UI. Firefox has got to be one of the most customizable browsers out there. Even before delving into the madness that is userscripts!

    • Duchess@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 years ago

      yeah you can customize that area of the browser as well as what extensions you have pinned. i just switched back to ff from chrome but i like to have all my extensions pinned so i can access them quickly.