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    8 months ago

    “No investigation no right to speak”? Thank you for completely ignoring my comment to your earlier accusation of being a liar that I responded to by using only Chinese sources. Meanwhile you have given exactly zero sources for your claims and then grandstand to try and make it a moral argument because you had your feelings hurt that you can’t call me a liar to my face.

    Why did you avoid linking that comment I wonder? Or any of the other ones? Did they not fit your narrative?

    Thank you for also for twisting my words.

    No where did I say that China was a cutthroat capitalist society where neurodivergent people were losers.

    Do you think China is some utopian paradise with absolutely no problems whatsoever where they are still striving for improvement? The original poster asked a question in good faith and I responded with a sourced claim, but also with hope of the situation improving.

    Or do you want to call me a liar to my face again? Your own bio states that you “deal with misinformation by using offices Chinese sources”. Well? Where are your sources? Or is Tsinghua University not reputable enough for you?

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        My bad, I didn’t notice the time stamp.

        You still avoided the question entirely.

        Well, am I a liar who’s making up everything I claimed? Say it to my face.

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          Sorry sire, I’m not an expert on every topic and in this instance I’ve decided not to spend time researching this topic when you have not even responded to my last Fact Check inquiry (https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3076871).

          I’ve arbitrarily decided that you are a bad faith actor on China-related issues and will not engage with you further.

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            Coward.

            It’s easy to make accusations and then run away, huh?

            I have arbitrarily decided that you were hoping to “catch me in a lie”, and when your plan blew up in your face, you whined and pivoted to making a moral argument about the other side arguing in bad faith, despite being the one arguing in bad faith.

            No investigation, no right to speak. Isn’t that what too wanted the mods to enforce?

            Piss off.

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      The original poster asked a question in good faith and I responded with a sourced claim

      Where was this “sourced claim” before I jumped in and asked?

      Do you think China is some utopian paradise with absolutely no problems whatsoever where they are still striving for improvement?

      From my comment in another post (https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/3895578):

      China is not a utopia, I’m glad that comrades here are defensive of China, but I suggest that we should avoid falling into the ideological warfare trap when it comes to discussing bad news in China. There’s no shame in admitting deficiencies where they are warranted, and of course feel free to refute baseless claims and misinformation.

      As for your Tsinghua University link (https://www.tsjc.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/info/1148/1139.htm), the articles linked are all from 2013, I suppose the situation from 11 years ago is still valid today. But this isn’t a problem because I’m sure you can find more recent sources for the poor situation regarding neurodivergent people in China. Also not to discriminate the author’s background but:

      Nicholas Compton, second year student of Global Business Journalism Program at our school. Before coming to Tsinghua University, he was a special education teacher in the U.S., specializing in autism education

      No where did I say that China was a cutthroat capitalist society where neurodivergent people were losers.

      No, I was mentioning what I thought after reading your two comments:

      Socially and culturally, children and by extension adults with any form of special needs are seen as broken, weak, or sick. Job discrimination is rife, schools and colleges will discriminate heavily, and there are essentially no social services. Legal protections are nonexistent, or paltry at best, and rarely enforced.

      and from the same cutthroat individualistic societal mindset that has allowed China to propel itself to absurd heights in such a short timeframe.