Russia’s use of North Korean missiles in its assault in Ukraine is giving Pyongyang a rare chance to test its weapons in combat and perhaps take away lessons that could improve their performance, a top US general said.
Yeeeeaaah that shit sounds like a whole lot of projection.
sprawling US Army Garrison Humphreys
First: screw this style of journalist writing. Second: who tf hears “sprawling foreign army garrison” and thinks “Oh yes it’s great and totally not weird”?
The US will be deploying missile systems with mid-range capability to the Indo-Pacific region soon,
Toldja, projection.
The North Korean missiles sent so far are similar in size and flight dynamics to Russia’s Iskander series, weapons experts have said
Could it be that gasp those WERE iskander missiles?! Nah, can’t be. Must be perfidious Axis of Evil somehow making their weapon systems more interchangeable and easier to mix than the vaunted NATO “standardisation”.
showed that the US Patriot air defense system has so far been largely effective in countering Russia’s missiles
“The enemy is both weak and strong”, etc. If your “patriot” system is soo good and effective, why are you afraid? Surely they’d just shoot down whatever inferior garage junk them orcs cobbled together from pipes and houseware chips?
sending massive amounts of munitions to Russia, which are interoperable with the Soviet-era systems being used in Ukraine.
See my earlier point. There hasn’t been a soviet union for over thirty years. Iskander system was developed after USSR was destroyed. The fuck kinda “interoperability” you are babbling about? Heck, if they said it was magically interoperable with the Tochka-U system, I still would call bs, but would at least have an area of plausibility. Heck, they could have even done some further smearing and claim that was the missile used to strike the market in Donetsk - since that one was a Tochka-U, and was blamed on Russia (despite, ya know, all the evidence).
Garbage article. You should feel bad for hurting my eyes with it, Yogthos
I find these articles mostly amusing because they expose how worried the empire is. Most of western media is painful to read because any actual news is buried in layers of propaganda.
ee my earlier point. There hasn’t been a soviet union for over thirty years. Iskander system was developed after USSR was destroyed. The fuck kinda “interoperability” you are babbling about? Heck, if they said it was magically interoperable with the Tochka-U system, I still would call bs, but would at least have an area of plausibility. Heck, they could have even done some further smearing and claim that was the missile used to strike the market in Donetsk - since that one was a Tochka-U, and was blamed on Russia (despite, ya know, all the evidence).
Sure, could be. Except the article is specifically talking about ballistic missiles. And again - are we supposed to believe that shells, made in DPRK nowadays are compatible with the guns and launchers used by Russia? Solely because they’re based off of the same soviet mould?
My layman ass is imagining that if the shells are of the same calibre, it should work out.
You could maybe have a situation where the DPRK is sending old soviet shells to the Russians who are then using old soviet surplus artillery to fire them.
My layman ass is imagining that if the shells are of the same calibre, it should work out.
See, my layman ass thought much the same, but then AFU began reporting issues with using nato shells with nato guns, despite calibre being standardised.
DPRK is sending old soviet shells to the Russians who are then using old soviet surplus artillery to fire them
This I would be more inclined to believe. However this implies:
That DPRK is confident enough in their ability to either replenish their stocks or obtain new weapons quick enough so as it doesn’t become a problem
That Russian military has either ran out of their own soviet made shells or can’t replenish them quick enough (the latter I could believe tbh, given how much damage has been and is still being done to our industrial capacity)
Those shells and weapons, despite being 30+ years old, are still not only functional, but quite effective
There are just so many factors here that if it somehow turns out to be true, I’ll have no choice but to eat my hat. Because boi!
I think explanations do exist for point 1 and 3. The DPRK has quite strong military production. It wouldn’t surprise me if they think sending over military surplus they don’t need right now (the US is tied up) in exchange for oil is worthwhile. As for the 30+ year old weapons, even old societ tanks, when well maintained could be used on the battlefield. I imagine that the DPRK of all countries would have the incentive to maintain their shells in good condition
Yeeeeaaah that shit sounds like a whole lot of projection.
First: screw this style of journalist writing. Second: who tf hears “sprawling foreign army garrison” and thinks “Oh yes it’s great and totally not weird”?
Toldja, projection.
Could it be that gasp those WERE iskander missiles?! Nah, can’t be. Must be perfidious Axis of Evil somehow making their weapon systems more interchangeable and easier to mix than the vaunted NATO “standardisation”.
“The enemy is both weak and strong”, etc. If your “patriot” system is soo good and effective, why are you afraid? Surely they’d just shoot down whatever inferior garage junk them orcs cobbled together from pipes and houseware chips?
See my earlier point. There hasn’t been a soviet union for over thirty years. Iskander system was developed after USSR was destroyed. The fuck kinda “interoperability” you are babbling about? Heck, if they said it was magically interoperable with the Tochka-U system, I still would call bs, but would at least have an area of plausibility. Heck, they could have even done some further smearing and claim that was the missile used to strike the market in Donetsk - since that one was a Tochka-U, and was blamed on Russia (despite, ya know, all the evidence).
Garbage article. You should feel bad for hurting my eyes with it, Yogthos
I find these articles mostly amusing because they expose how worried the empire is. Most of western media is painful to read because any actual news is buried in layers of propaganda.
Maybe they are talking about shells here?
Sure, could be. Except the article is specifically talking about ballistic missiles. And again - are we supposed to believe that shells, made in DPRK nowadays are compatible with the guns and launchers used by Russia? Solely because they’re based off of the same soviet mould?
My layman ass is imagining that if the shells are of the same calibre, it should work out.
You could maybe have a situation where the DPRK is sending old soviet shells to the Russians who are then using old soviet surplus artillery to fire them.
See, my layman ass thought much the same, but then AFU began reporting issues with using nato shells with nato guns, despite calibre being standardised.
This I would be more inclined to believe. However this implies:
That DPRK is confident enough in their ability to either replenish their stocks or obtain new weapons quick enough so as it doesn’t become a problem
That Russian military has either ran out of their own soviet made shells or can’t replenish them quick enough (the latter I could believe tbh, given how much damage has been and is still being done to our industrial capacity)
Those shells and weapons, despite being 30+ years old, are still not only functional, but quite effective
There are just so many factors here that if it somehow turns out to be true, I’ll have no choice but to eat my hat. Because boi!
I think explanations do exist for point 1 and 3. The DPRK has quite strong military production. It wouldn’t surprise me if they think sending over military surplus they don’t need right now (the US is tied up) in exchange for oil is worthwhile. As for the 30+ year old weapons, even old societ tanks, when well maintained could be used on the battlefield. I imagine that the DPRK of all countries would have the incentive to maintain their shells in good condition