• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    That’s not correct, though. MLs don’t support fascist regimes.

    Well, some people who call themselves Marxist-Leninists do. Those are Tankies.

    A rational ML person won’t support fascism, but there are a lot of so-called ML adherents who yearn so greatly for the trappings of the USSR to the extent that they don’t even care about its founding ideology; they care about putting a man into space, about strong nuclear arsenals, and about dismantling the corrupt West. Hence why so many Tankies fall in line behind the Putin regime for no reason other than that he is aesthetically “the glory days of Russia” and has made himself an enemy of the West, despite all of the fascism which fills the gaps.

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      8 months ago

      I mostly agree, the issue is that the majority of what gets called support for Putin isn’t support for Putin, but alignment against NATO. There are legitimate supporters of Putin among some few MLs, but what I personally have noticed more is anti-NATO statements being called pro-Putin, because Putin standa against NATO.

      The opposite is also common, going against Putin can often get conflated with being pro-NATO.

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        8 months ago

        I get that. I suppose in this case I just don’t sympathize with the “enemy of my enemy” perspective because Putin and the neo-aristocratic oligarchs who surround him are still enemies of Marxist ideology.

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          8 months ago

          If we just look at Lemmygrad’s Prolewiki, they outline their stance on the Russian Federation and the Russo-Ukranian War. You can examine that as much as you want, they acknowledge that Putin is a bourgeois dictator, but also go off of Lenin’s definition of Imperialism and find that the current RF doesn’t fit it, due to their production. That doesn’t mean they justify the RF’s invasion, they outright call it out, but also try to understand the reasons the invasion happened in the first place.

          They outright state that they support revolution within Russia against the Capitalist dictatorship, and showcase how the people are unhappy with the current system.

          I may not agree with their overall analysis, but this is absolutely not the viewpoint of a right winger, which means they can be swayed.