• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    Why not call for a full Russian withdrawl instead? Why should the defenders of their homeland be the ones to surrender?

    The fact that a former Superpower was not able to roll Ukraine in the first 10 days, 100 days, what is it now? 745 days… yeah. It’s time for Russia to get out.

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      That’s the polite way of putting it.

      Pretty sure anyone with half a brain and not straight up owned by Putin realizes that surrender is not an option- it just lets them regroup for another push in 5-10 years.

      So. The pope either has the intellectual capacity of a petrified vegetable or is now shilling for Putin.

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      On everything. He’s an antiquated old bigot who was an idiot long before he was made the head of the church PR phase. All his platitudes and nice talking points are all manufactured

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      With modern society, yeah.

      But no one hates every other Abrhamic religion more than the leader of one them.

      And Islam is the biggest one. Judaism isn’t a threat to replace any form of Christianity, they don’t have the numbers.

      But there’s about the same amount of Christians and Muslims in the world. For about 1300 years Christian leaders have been trying to stop Islam from becoming the majority.

      That’s the most important thing in Abrhamic religions: doing what it takes to be the majority.

      The Bible even says if a family member ever doubts Jesus, you’re to kill them immediately to prevent them from convincing others.

      Which is a throw back to a schizophrenic guy named Abraham killing his family because they doubted the voices Abraham heard in his head.

      All this shit traces back to some random crazy guy that demanded his family do exactly what he says without question. It’s like the one part that never changes

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        The Bible even says if a family member ever doubts Jesus, you’re to kill them immediately to prevent them from convincing others.

        Which is a throw back to a schizophrenic guy named Abraham killing his family because they doubted the voices Abraham heard in his head.

        I’m gonna request citations on these two.

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          Wow, I’m usually criticizing people for saying they read the Bible when they clearly didn’t, but this is the most blatantly, absurdly untrue one that I can remember.

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            And like, it’s not like there isn’t some weird shit in the Bible, or valid critiques of Abrahamic religions, but did this bro go for any of that? Nah, better to just make stuff up. Which is kinda ironic…

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              Indood. You’ll always do a better job of criticizing something if you don’t lie about it.

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        But no one hates every other Abrhamic religion more than the leader of one them.

        Wow. I’m an atheist and even I know that religious leaders tend to be extremely respectful of other faiths. They respect the holding of faith, even if it’s not the one that they personally hold. They’ve spent their lives studying their religion and often find the history and relationships between different faiths fascinating.

        Personally I think they’re just studying myths, and it’s no more productive than somebody studying Milton.

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    Dear Pope: Direct your fucking comments to the guy who is invading Ukraine. Thanks.

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    Pope Francis really all over the board with political beliefs, the dude went from liberal ally gay marriage officiator to conservative facebooker in record time.

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    I kick in your front door and kill two of your kids. I then plant mines at the entrances to your living room and kitchen, eat all the food from the refrigerator and shoot at you if you try to come downstairs. You need to end this aggression, it’s unseemly and it’s getting people hurt. Just cede the living room and the kitchen, you wouldn’t want to escalate things. Also I can’t help but notice that your basement and upstairs bathroom are looking pretty liberateable.

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    Tell you what popeman, how about you get rid of all the kid rapists in your organization before you give anyone else advice on anything… Ever.

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    had used the term white flag “to indicate a cessation of hostilities, a truce reached with the courage of negotiation”. He repeated the pontiff’s call for a “diplomatic solution in search of a just and lasting peace”

    That’s kinda hard when Russia bombs humanitary corridors, ceasefire equals rearm and regroup and nothing else, and the last diplomatic solution was used as toilet paper to start the current war.

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    Russian state TV host Vladimir Solovyov berated Pope Francis for “sticking his nose where it does not belong” and suggesting negotiations. Solovyov said that Russia has no interest in negotiations and does not recognize the Pope as a spiritual leader…so I guess the pope should wave the white flag…

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    When the Pope allows all sexual abusers in the Faith be prosecuted and held accountable for their disgusting and morally evil crimes then maybe I’ll give a fuck what he has to say about anything. Out of touch old man doesn’t get to protect kiddy fiddlers and then try and preach to others.

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    Leader of single largest pedophile ring in history thinks X.

    This Is how they should report on this piece of shit every time he opens up his removed.

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    Fuck the pope. Glad that I already exited the Catholic Church a few years ago…

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        woops…of course I meant that I exited the church. Here in germany we have to pay something called “church tax” unless you formerly adress that you exit the church. You have to fill out a form, have to go to the town hall, have a little talk with some guy about it and then you are finally good to go.

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            Yep, it’s automatically collected by the state from your paycheck and given to the church that’s on your file.
            If you want them not to do that, you have to go to the registry office and have them update your file to “Konfessionslos” which often comes with fee.
            The information that you’ve left is also given to the pastor in your region for some reason who will try to convince you to come back…

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    Isn’t religion suffering from people leaving and no new blood entering for growth? Maybe the Catholic Church can wave the white flag?

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      Latin America and Sub Sahara Africa and Southeast Asia have seen big upticks in Catholic conversion and Catholic family growth, while in the US and Europe they’ve been flat or shrinking.

      I’m sure it isn’t a coincidence that these countries are opposed to the conflict, as continued war in the Ukraine has denied them access to the agricultural production of the region (during a climate-change induced famine, no less). The war itself isn’t exactly doing favors to climate metrics, either.

      Add in that the primary advocates of the war (the US, the UK, and Germany) have an absolute shit reputation in these regions (West Germany famously continued to send arms to Apartheid South Africa well into the 1980s, the US has completely fucked its relationship with Pakistan in the latest rigged election against a wildly popular prime minister Imran Khan, the UK keeps trying to send all its Ukraine refugees to Rwanda), they aren’t overly sympathetic to the Western-backed side in the conflict.

      So now enter the Pope, a guy who is forever “anti-war” in the most basic sense of the word and will advocate for a ceasefire in virtually every conflict. Image how much of his constituency is howling at the absolute waste and destruction, partially at their expense, that’s driving up food and energy prices globally when they can least afford it.

      Is it any surprise he just wants this shit to end already?

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      Maybe his ring would get a lot of Ukrainian kids human trafficked to them in case of a Russian victory.