• noorbeast@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    Not being American have I got this right, there is a bipartisan bill aimed at punishing South Africa for raising what the the International Court of Justice then subsequently found it plausible Israel has committed acts of genocide against Gaza?

    If the US wants to advocate for adherence to a rules based order then it has to be willing to abide by it, otherwise why would others?

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      4 months ago

      PFFFT HAHAHAHA

      The us? adhere to a rules-based order? That’s fuckin rich. No, the US will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the light like germany in the 40s one of these days.

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      Ah but it is rules-based. The rule is that the US gets to do whatever it wants. And if other countries don’t do what the US wants, then the US gets to punish them.

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        As I understand the article, it is about help to SA. Not helping and punishing are different things.

        US obviously does not think it is a genocide, and supports Israel. When someone acts against this support, why should US be obligated to help them?

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      USian here, it’s a common misconception. It’s actually the “Our rules-based international order”. Perhaps unsurprisingly, our rules say that the 1st world can practice unlimited plunder on the 3rd world as long as we’re mostly not too open about doing it (This part is becoming obsolete). The rules also state that any country defending itself from us is an aggressive rogue terrorist state that has opened itself up to unlimited saturation self defense, followed by plunder, by virtue of breaking the rules.

      If someone notices the obvious mafia-like structure of these rules and say, tries to take it up with the ICC, the rules also say we will invade the Hague.

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      Notice the gradual shift from an international order based on international law to the current “rules-based” international order that has happened during the last 2 decades? The ICJ is an arbiter of international law while the rules-based order is based on arbitrary rules made by the US and mostly NATO allies not necessarily related to international law. This shift was designed for situations like this where adherence to these arbitrary rules can be used to override/ignore international law. So when the highest court in the world when it comes to international law rules that the case brought by SA has clear merit, the US can punish SA for bringing the case in the first place and pretend that’s by the rules.

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    I’m always skeptical of any story about a bill being submitted. There’s a lot of steps between that and it even getting a vote. Is this really newsworthy? Let me know if it gets through committee, then I’ll care.

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    Look deep enough, there’s gonna be a bill to install irradiated cream cheese into trident nuclear missiles…

    As an American, notify us when it gets by either the house or Senate

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      Usually the “insane” bills like these are written by crank Republicans, MTG types. This one’s got a Democrat too, even if it doesn’t pass it goes to show how unhinged Dems are.

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    Biden is destroying the USs credibility. At this rate the “rules based international order” will be just the US and some allies 🙄

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      Oh, really. What credibility? Bush Sr and Jr already had demolished most of what remained, and Trump gathered up anything left and set it on fire. There was literally nothing left to destroy.

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        Obama created the illusion that Democratic presidents, at least, are reliable and reasonable and diplomatic rulers. Vicious imperialist monsters, yes, but ones that would abide by their own professed “rules based order”. Biden is destroying that last figleaf of credibility by overreaching so hard to support Israel. I don’t think anyone will be fooled about things ever going “back to normal”.