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  • KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml
    15·
    2 years ago

    Why do libs and anarchos always have to play the semantics game man, it’s so fucking obtuse and annoying

    elaborate point how Western imperialism exploits and underdevelops the global south

    uhm wow, can we not use language like underdeveloped please, that’s so problematic

    Their productive forces are literally less developed, their mode of production is literally less developed, it’s a technical term not a normative statement about the worth of the people living in those countries or even those countries broadly. Also thanks for derailing the conversation about imperialism

      • KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml
        9·
        2 years ago

        Fair point lol. In this case it wasn’t even a disagreement really, they just had to reflexively interject that for no reason at all, no broader disagreement. But they got to show whatever it is they want to show with these stunts

    • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
      11·
      2 years ago

      Why do libs and anarchos always have to play the semantics game man

      Idealism, would be my guess. Remember that quote about “changing names of things to change things themselves”? Words are essentially magic to them. It’s not cracking down on protesters, it’s “enforcing public order”. It’s not using drones to indiscriminately murder people in the other side of the world, it’s “employing cutting edge technology to defend against terrorism”, and also the pilot is a woman, you bigot!

      Their productive forces are literally less developed, their mode of production is literally less developed, it’s a technical term not a normative statement about the worth of the people living in those countries

      And now time to catch some flack from the comrades. Try using this term to describe the native Americans during the colonization. If you feel your eyebrows furrowing at me - the productive forces of the Iroquois, or Hurons, or Odjibwe were, last I checked, less developed than those of western Europe.