DAE everybody and everything dumb, all opinion pointless xddddddd
Thought it was the funniest shit growing up, because its edge and some of its cultural critiques actually did break through the malaise and limits of early 2000s cultural life. Had its limitations and problems then too ofc, but there was something countercultural and subversive to it, especially in regards to the much more prude and religious zeitgeist then.
But at least since like 2015/16 its just so…meh. Idk if it’s more my personal development or the show declining, but its just so bland, uninspired, unfunny and milquetoast in its messaging to me. Its just another pseudo-intellectual lib show with nothing but faux subversiveness. Just another participant in the boring as culture war with the creators libertarianism inevitably making it drift more to the right - I suspect, because I don’t think I’ve seen an episode in years.
The inevitable result of canonization, commodification, etc I guess
Three components are needed to master the late American comedy series: Bad jokes, bad takes and bad art. South Park is a show that has developed the perfect mixture of them.
I have never watched it
Same
I would have guessed Family Guy/any Seth McFarland animation. South Park is a close second.
Only thing I know about this is that it’s lib racist yankee cartoon so yeah
It is made by libertarians. They made transphobic jokes, jokes from poors, and normalizing fascist jokes and behavior (the fat kid joking about his Jew friend).
This show sucks ass lol
I wanted to make a post in one of the communities discussing South Park. I have a weird relationship with this show; when it hits it hits pretty good but when it misses it misses hard. The wallmart episode was hilarious but the Amazon one was awful. If you know you know. The absolute centrism is incredibly annoying and one half of the fans are ignorant shit heads, the other half are great artists. I don’t know what Matt and Trey’s politics are but people have labeled them as Libertarians (still unsure what that means, too many definitions are thrown around these days).
This is how I feel about Family Guy. So many of the jokes are offensive, not funny, obviously bad ect but there is something about the stupid humor that sometimes just absolutely gets me, can’t help it
Family guy had some great moments in the earlier seasons but, like most shows, started to decline the further it went on. South Park is good when the characters act their age and it doesn’t rely on gross out humour, bigotry, apathy and general ignorance. The only adult animation I seem to love consistently is Bob’s Burgers.
Yeah, Bob’s Burgers is really great. The only other I found is American Dad, but it is nowhere near as good.
Guilty Pleasure😔
Same here. Some of the fans sucked me in with their great art and friendly attitudes (most of them are LGBTQ). I only watch specific episodes and skip others.
Yea the Manbearpig episode is garbage, it’s all about how Climate Change is fake and Al Gore is supposedly making this all up for attention. There are also a few low-blow gay jokes that are just in bad taste in some episodes.
They’ve seemed to change their tune on climate change as ManBearPig is now a reality and they’ve used it to have conversations about the climate.
I remember in one episode they “critiqued” (I use that term loosely) older generations about their blasé attitude about global warming and fucking up a negotiation with ManBearPig so Stan tries to renegotiate with ManBearPig to save the future.
ManBearPig basically says it’ll stop ravaging the planet if the people are willing to give up soy sauce (and one other thing I can’t remember). When Stan goes to ask everyone if they’d be cool with that they all complain about “plain rice”. So Stan returns to negotiate something else and basically comes to the conclusion that ManBearPig can ravage the third world (aka the countries that contribute the least to climate change but will suffer the most) and leave America alone.
Not the best critique since it blames the normal population for climate change rather than the few individuals who we know for a fact contribute the most to destroying the planet, but it is a departure from their original stance.
This is not a defence of the South Park people!
I kinda remember them bringing back Manbearpig I don’t remember the whole episode tho, glad that they can admit when they’re wrong
True, but they still need to make up for the rampant transphobia. The trans women in sports episode was grotesque.
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Thank you! Still not the best critique but it’s something.
I remember an early episode where the message was basically that big organisations aren’t oppressive because they started as small businesses.
Is that the Walmart one? I thought the message was when businesses get too big they start to control everything, even the people. I remember them burning both Walmart and the small-turned-big business to the ground by the end. Then again, it was weird how it basically blamed the people for turning small businesses into large corporations…
I think it was an episode about Starbucks, but I’m not sure. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it.
Bro those drawings are so bad.
Aren’t they like some weird 2d construction paper stopmotion?
Could you please provide a few examples of how bad this show is?
I’ve talked about it before, but now would be a good time to mention my most vivid memory of the show. I remember having the misfortune of catching an episode (one titled Goobacks, from 2004) and there was one particular moment that always struck me as incongruous.
This is a xenophobic redneck asking another xenophobic redneck how they could prevent immigrants—‘people from the future’—from obtaining employment:
‘All right! So, any ideas how we can stop the future from happening?’
‘How about we cause more global warming, so that in the future, the polar ice caps melt, and it ushers in a new ice age?’
‘How the hell is global warming gonna cause an ice age?!’
‘Well you know, the… global warming could bring on like a climate shift or somethin’?’
‘Chet, you are a fuckin’ [insert slur here], you know that?! Even if global warming were real—which all proven scientific data shows it isn’t—you think an ice age can just happen all of a sudden-like? It would take millions of years for a climate shift to happen!’
‘Well I was just tryin’ to be helpful.’
‘Well help yourself to a fuckin’ science book, ’cause you’re talkin’ like a fuckin’ [insert slur here]!’
It was possibly the most blatant case that I’ve seen of a writer ranting at his audience. Not only could the dialogue have easily been deleted without distorting the plot, it was so out‐of‐character for this guy that even I noticed (I was generally less observant back then). And, hopefully, it goes without saying that there is no need for anybody to get this irritated over one silly question.
