After scuttling a months-long search for a new host, the Paramount Global network said it had enlisted Jon Stewart, who presided over the late-night mainstay’s most popular era, to serve as its host on Monday nights throughout the 2024 election cycle and to run the program. He is expected to oversee the program through 2025. Various “Daily Show” correspondents will host the program Tuesday through Thursday nights, and Jen Flanz, the current executive producer, will continue her duties on the show.

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      I’ll never not believe that if Jon was running the Daily Show for the 2016 election season, Trump wouldn’t have been elected.

      Either way, Zelenskyy proved what a satirical comedian with good character can do on the world stage. Wish Jon would just run for office already…

      Side note: Mehdi Hasan has left MSNBC… Apart from Jon, I can think of nobody else more qualified to run the Daily Show.

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        I’ve thought the same thing ever since that dipshit got elected president in 2016.

        Stewart’s presence in the media was real and impactful. Really wish he had stayed a few more years.

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          Idk if so many people remember this now, but watching him on Crossfire absolutely shut them down was so satisfying. Then the show just happens to get cancelled not long after for ‘unrelated reasons’, like they didn’t get destroyed and quit in shame.

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            Oh yes I remember that fondly. Crazy to think that bumbling bow-tie dipshit would go on to have one of the biggest conservative followings and basically be a Kremlin mouthpiece. Fuck Carlson.

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        What Zelenskyy did, his career trajectory I mean, is nothing short of… well, the sitcom fiction he wrote himself. A good one, btw— it’s called Servant of the People. It’s on Netflix. He’s hilarious. And that may be the most fucked up part: he seemingly predicted all of this (to some degree) in the form of, honestly, a pretty hilarious sitcom that got cancelled before the 3rd season started production because it fucking came true.

        It’s not a direct A:B comparison of reality, but it’s uncannily close— also, proof that Ukraine is perfectly capable of making a delightfully funny politically-oriented sitcom for streaming. Well, until the guy became president and globally-beloved war daddy. Nonetheless, it’s bizarre how it coincided with, or perhaps provoked, real-word events that led to him becoming a popularly-elected anti-corruption president against all of the “influence” Russia could throw at the elections.

        And he’s lived up to all of his promises. He spent the first pert of his presidency cleaning house, something he’s kept doing, even after meeting deep parliamentary resistance. Fucker has stood up to Trump’s attempts to extort him, over which Trump got impeached, btw. Like… holy shit! World leaders from far greater nations have melted in front of US presidents. Not this guy. After the Russians invaded, something nobody expected a comedian to have the temerity to face, he, in no uncertain terms - with a raised middle finger to Putin - has become one of the most inspiring world leaders of the 21st-century.  not only his people, but people all over the world fucking love him.  More importantly, they respect him. 

        He’s amazing.

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        I think Jon would be great as president. Definitely better than our current options. But if he was done with the Daily Show (and even if he never left) I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he didn’t want the actual job of being president.

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          He has explicitly said before that he does not want to run for president and does not want that job.

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            Which is all the more reason to have a massive write in campaign for him.

            Those who do not lust for power, are those most suitable to be burdened with it.

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        I don’t think Zelensky is a good example of anything lol his government has been the most right-wing and authoritarian government in Ukraine in recent memory. They banned all left-wing parties for goodness sake….

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          Those of us who remember the Orange Revolution understand the incredible political attack that Ukraine has been under for decades. Russia has expended unprecedented expenditure understanding democracy in order to develop mechanisms to undermine it.

          It’s extremely unfortunate the reality in which former Soviet states exist. While it’s distasteful, it’s certainly necessary given a reality that westerners barely understand… Which is kind of shocking to me given the outcome of Jan 6.

          I think when the war is over, it would be appropriate for him to not even run. Hard men make hard decisions when under existential threat. I’m glad Ukraine had a Churchill when Ukraine needed a Churchill… But when that time comes for a peacetime leader, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t the right man in the right place at the right time.

          It is from a position of privilege and ignorance that we criticize the necessary actions of wartime leaders.

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            You think necessary actions is absorbing and legitimising far-right and Nazi militias? Literally banning and arresting left-wing activists? Kidnapping men in the middle of the night to conscript them? Bombing indiscriminately civilians on the East? Bro fuck off.

            Churchill was a genocidal racist maniac btw, if he’s your idea of a hero, I understand where you’re coming from. And again, bro fuck right the fuck off.

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              I’m continually perplexed by people who claim to be anti-nazi but are here to light up (checks notes) Winston Churchill.

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              You really seem misinformed. Wagner has more association with nazism. Even Putin’s right-hand man, his modern Rasputin if you will, is a literal dyed-in-the-wool neo-nazi who wrote the plans Putin is literally carrying out.

              Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is of no difference than Hitler’s justification to invade Poland “for ethnic Germans.”

              At the end of the day, the Jewish leader Zelenskyy who lost family in the Holocaust, disrupted the sockpuppetry that was originally taking place in Ukraine. As the war continued, the remnants of corruption have continued to be weeded out, though still some remain.

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                You really seem misinformed. There are Nazis in Russia, nobody said there weren’t. But Russia didn’t absorb the Nazis into their government and state apparatus, gave them leadership positions in ministries etc.

                And Nazi Germany invaded Poland because of Lebensraum, basically German Manifest Destiny. Russia invaded Ukraine because of NATO and the color revolution in 2014.

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                  Yes Russia did, what are you smoking? I just told you Putin’s right-hand man is a nazi. You just ignored that conveniently lol. RT, the Kremlin mouthpiece, spouts nazi propaganda on the daily.

                  What absorption of nazism in Ukraine are you talking about and when, specifically?

                  No, Russia didn’t even Ukraine “because NATO,” considering Ukraine wasn’t in NATO and intentionally didn’t join to stop Russian aggression. Yet Russia did so anyway.

                  Ironically the DEFENSIVE Alliance that is NATO would’ve saved many lives of women and children from the brutal Russian invasion because Russia knows they’d get demolished by NATO.

                  You are clearly drinking far too much Russian vodka, my friend.

                  Finally, please learn your history regarding WWII:

                  Hitler sought to use this as casus belli, a reason for war, reverse the post-1918 territorial losses, and on many occasions had appealed to German nationalism, promising to “liberate” the German minority still in the Corridor, as well as Danzig.

                  But you’re right: this was just a convenient excuse. Just as Russia is using it as a convenient excuse for their own sort of Lebensraum, basically Russian Manifest Destiny. Or wait – did you not read Putin’s 5,000 word essay where he spells this out…?

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              Assuming you’re talking about the Azov Batallion, if you are fighting a war for your country’s survival and you have a rabid band of ethnonationalists, who clearly suck in terms of their views and beliefs, but are otherwise willing to die to protect your country, why wouldn’t you let them?

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                … I’m talking about right-sector, azov, national corps etc. They were brought into leadership and legitimized as part of the national guard and army. That is inexcusable. You would really side with Nazis to defend “your country”? After the war is over, Ukraine will become an ultra-right wing state. The state apparatus will have been completely overtaken by these militias and groups.

                That’s like saying the UK should’ve legitimized and absorbed the British Fascist Party during WW2, made Oswald Mosley the minister of defense (which was done in Ukraine…) etc. That’s insane, but it does show how you liberals see the world. Scratch a liberal etc etc

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                  Do you think Nazis don’t exist in modern western militaries? Also, you think Nazis are liberal? You seem like either a troll or an idiot.

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                  Azov et. al., literally make up <1% of the total UAF. lol what are you talking about? These people just have a common enemy and it’s all-hands-on-deck to oust the foreign invader. The same thing even happened in WWII America when pro-Nazi sects of our society took up arms against Japan.

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    Finally, some good news.

    Out of a lot of jackasses in the world, Jon Stewart continues to be clear-headed unmitigated good.


    Yes, that means I have forgiven him for using trans people as the butt of his jokes for a long time, and I’m hoping he’s had enough growth to understand why those were bad. Also, to be fair, it’s been quite a while since he has done a joke like that. And if he turns on a dime and makes some uncouth remarks about trans folks, he’ll be in shit-city with me, and I’ll take back the good things I said about him. Pretty sure he won’t tho.

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        I did link that at the end, after a quick Google. I don’t have AppleTV and never saw The Problem with Jon Stewart, so I was unaware of this, but the fact that he defended Chappelle at first was a bad look and to my knowledge he hasn’t amended his statement on Chappelle’s defense.

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          Stewart didn’t defend Chapelle, Stewart opposed censorship and penalties with one reason being Stewart being called antisemitic for criticizing how Israel treats Palestinians. Note this is from 2022 and I’m pretty sure Stewart still thinks Israel’s actions are terrible.

          https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/11/jon-stewart-defends-dave-chappelle-controversial-snl-monologue

          During his appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert on Tuesday, Stewart pushed back on the belief that Chappelle “normalized antisemitism” with his 15-minute commentary that involved Kanye West’s and Kyrie Irving’s recent scandals. “I don’t know if you’ve been on comment sections on most news articles, but it’s pretty fucking normal. As you know, it’s incredibly normal,” Stewart began. “But the one thing I will say is, I don’t believe that censorship and penalties are the way to end antisemitism or to not gain understanding. I don’t believe in that, and I think it’s the wrong way for us to approach it.”

          Stewart, who was present at the Los Angeles comedy event where Chappelle was attacked onstage after his set in May, agreed with the comic that “it shouldn’t be this hard to talk about things,” adding, “I’m called antisemitic because I’m against Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. I’m called other things from other people based on other opinions that I have…Whether it be comedy or discussion or anything else, if we don’t have the wherewithal to meet each other with what’s reality, then how do we move forward?… If we all just shut it down, then we retreat to our little corners of misinformation and it metastasizes. And the whole point of all this is to not let it metastasize and to get it out in the air and talk about it.”

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            And anyone coming from Reddit (or here) should understand.

            How many comments aren’t posted just to avoid the backlash and downvotes?

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            I’m talking about something that preceded that and is about Stewart defending Chappelle’s anti-trans jokes and positions.

            I’m not linking directly to a shitrag like the New York Post, but I couldn’t find another article on it.

            https://web.archive.org/web/20211022145129/https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/jon-stewart-defends-decent-dave-chappelle-amid-scandal/

            Chappelle has been under fire since the release of “The Closer” earlier this month, in which he declared himself to be a “trans-exclusionary radical feminist” (TERF).

            “They canceled JK Rowling — my God. Effectually, she said gender was fact, the trans community got mad as s–t, they started calling her a TERF … I’m Team TERF,” Chappelle quipped in the stand-up special.

            Stewart defended Chappelle over the anti-trans jokes he made in The Closer.

            Speaking with TMZ, he described Chappelle as “warm,” “wise” and “decent.”

            “Look, if this spurs a conversation where people get more on the same page in terms of understanding, that’d be great, but I know his intention is never hurtful — like, he’s just not that kind of person,” Stewart said.

            “And if it is [hurtful], it’s certainly unintentional … He’s really a good man.”

            Stewart and Chappelle have been friends for years, and the pair performed together in Ireland back in 2018.

            Stewart specifically defended Chappelle after Chappelle referred to himself as a TERF on his standup special.

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                Yeah it would mean a lot to me if Jon Stewart could just say “Okay, yeah, Chappelle is officially being hurtful on purpose.”

                Because he fucking is. Guy basically thinks trans people should have to suffer the indignities black people did to get respect… because he doesn’t realize they fucking did already. But beyond whether they did or not already, does Chappelle really want to fucking play Oppression Olympics? Fuck me man, I thought we all deserved respect because of human rights, not because we were supposed to suffer under abuse first. That’s some real Boomer shit, “It was bad for me, so I better see it being bad for you before I respect you.”

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                  Chapelle has completely shit the bed over thr last decade by switching from someone who had clever takes on racial issues with some shitty takes on other subjects to leaning entirely into spewing hate while crying about nonexistent cancel culture.

                  Yes, Chapelle wants to play oppression Olympics while excusing his hot takes because he had ‘one trans friend’. I forced myself to watch most of his Closer special to see if it was as bad as people claimed and it was, so from here on out I will just assume the worst things said about him are probably true.

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      I’m less concerned about trans jokes specifically, but I worry that Jon Stewart of now won’t be able to live up to our memories of him during the W years. Will be be sufficiently progressive for modern left viewers, or is he going to be a Bill Maher “center left” type? Will he be is sharp and cutting as he was, and be able to translate that to a world that is so more polarized and down the rabbit hole with conspiracy theories and all that junk?

      Basically I’m afraid this is Michael Jordan coming out of retirement to play for the Washington Wizards.

      Maybe my concerns are not well placed, I didn’t catch his newer show because I don’t feel like subscribing to Apple TV, so I don’t know where he’s at nowadays. I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’m fully prepared to be let down.

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    Jon is how I got sucked into US politics all those years ago. He was amazing. Look at me now, knowing things about stuff and all. Thanks Jon!

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    Everyone says the darkest timeline started when Harambe was killed. I think it was when Stewart left the Daily Show.

    Maybe this will be able to get us back a little bit.

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      Or 9/11, JFK assassination, or MLK, maybe when Debbie Wasserman Schultz handed the DNC over to the Clinton campaign, maybe after the civil war when the traitors weren’t brought to justice, or when Gore won but didn’t take the seat. There are so many turning points.

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      I often wonder if an impassioned Jon Stewart plea in 2016 might have motivated enough young Bernie supporters to make the difference in a few swing states.

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        He had been doing it for 16 years. I think he said he needed a break. He took one for a few years, then started a show on Apple TV which was recently ended by Apple.

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          Reading this and thinking “It started in the 90s?” before realising 16 years ago was 2008…

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        Nothing would have been easier than hosting during the 2016 campaign w/ Trump doing the writing for him.

        He could have had a show compromised of nothing but reading quotes verbatim, pausing only for nonverbal reactions

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      Does Jon even want the job? It sucks. You have to deal with so many roadblocks. You get blamed for everything. You pitch ideas and make demands and some shithead dept will block you and some company throws billions to turn the public against you.

      Unless he finds loopholes like Trump and load it up with toadies willing to bow to the king, which I doubt Stewart wants to abuse because he has ethics, it’ll be hard to get much of the government on his side.

      Even basic shit like feeding school kids is a fucking political theater by assholes.

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        He doesn’t want the job. That’s kinda the point. We could use someone who doesn’t WANT the job but does it anyway.

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            Make it like jury duty. You get 4 years in the hotseat then it’s on to something else. Imagine the diversity of experience, good and bad. You can’t lead a committee that has anything to do with your civilian career.

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              That would be in the same spirit as the system of government in ancient Athens. Common people being chosen by lottery to have a seat in governement. From the little I know on the subject, I always thought it seemed like a really solid democratic system.

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                DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. An’ how’d you get that, eh? By exploitin’ the workers – by ‘angin’ on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an’ social differences in our society! If there’s ever going to be any progress–

                WOMAN: Dennis, there’s some lovely filth down here. Oh – how d’you do?

                ARTHUR: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that?

                WOMAN: King of the who?

                ARTHUR: The Britons.

                WOMAN: Who are the Britons?

                ARTHUR: Well, we all are. we’re all Britons and I am your king.

                WOMAN: I didn’t know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.

                DENNIS: You’re fooling yourself. We’re living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes–

                WOMAN: Oh there you go, bringing class into it again.

                DENNIS: That’s what it’s all about if only people would–

                ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?

                WOMAN: No one live there.

                ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?

                WOMAN: We don’t have a lord.

                ARTHUR: What?

                DENNIS: I told you. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.

                ARTHUR: Yes.

                DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting.

                ARTHUR: Yes, I see.

                DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,–

                ARTHUR: Be quiet! DENNIS: –but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more–

                ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!

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    The only worthy host of the show. He was able to make a comedy show compete with shows on so-called news channels.

    I wonder why it looks like he was the last person considered for the show, is it because he cared about issues that he talked about and made young people care?

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      He was doing his own thing until Apple killed his show over fears that he would talk about China.

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      He was the last person considered because 1) he already hosted for 16 years and quit so they probably assumed he didn’t want to go back to it, and 2) when they started considering people, Stewart was under contract with a competing show on AppleTV+ (The Problem w/ Jon Stewart), but that show was recently cancelled. Also, The Problem only airs once a week, so imagine Stewart told CC that he’d only come back to do one show weekly rather than the four that he used to do.

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      Because he retired from the show in 2015. Hence why he’s only coming back part time. It was his choice to leave the first time, so that’s probably why he was the last one to reach out to.

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        The coincidental timing with his contract non-renewal with Apple is also quite… serendipitous, no?

        Stewart is at the point in his career where he doesn’t want to commit to something more than a weekly show and executive producership. He’s also digging the podcasting space. This works out for everyone. 

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      He likely wasn’t the last person considered. He was the hardest person to get.

      He had another show up until recent, and I was famously burnt out from the Daily Show. They Likely need to wait until he was free and make him an offer that he couldn’t resist.

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    I’m just a random person in the world, so my opinion doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things…but I have never found Trevor Noah even slightly funny my entire life.

    I feel bad saying that, because he seems like a genuine, sincere person from what I have read and watched, but his delivery on the Daily Show just comes across as bland/flat to me, I stopped watching maybe 1 year into his tenure.

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      Maybe not funny all the time, but if you go on YouTube the daily show channel used to post between the scenes cuts of Trevor. I also used to dislike his delivery, but I found him way more interesting and engrossing in the more off-the-cuff style. I am convinced it was the writers or producers who were dropping the ball.

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      As someone with no special insight into the internal workings, and who didnt watch trevor noah’s DS too much, or know much about noah himself, i’ve honestly been pretty convinced that the problems with TN DS doesn’t really have anything to do with trevor specifically, but i’m reasonably sure that comedy central took jon stewart leaving as an opportunity to “tame” the writing on the show.

      I feel like comedy central wanted to pull the show back from leaning too far left to appeal to a wider audience.

      What i mean by that, is where jon stewart might tear into a political figure for the way they stand on some particular issue he disagrees with, trevor’s daily show would like…make fun of their hair/clothes, or some other “safe” joke that doesn’t get too political.

      And noah, unfairly, probably takes all the blame for this, even though i’m quite sure this is on the studio heads and was outside his control.

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        As a non-US person, I want to point out that US politics has shifted so far to the right that centrists in any other country would look like far left to you.

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          I mean, Jon Stewart is pretty left if you consider the majority of Democrats to be Neoliberals. Jon lambasted everyone, and that’s fine, bit then he lambasted companies and “centrist” talking points, and THAT was too far for some.

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      I absolutely turned around on Noah. His standup is fantastic.

      His daily show era is still kinda bland. His “Outsider looking into America” perspective didn’t really fit what Stewart built up.

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        Agreed. He had big shoes to fill, and I don’t know that anyone except maybe Colbert could’ve actually done it. He did have some good moments though, I remember a brief segment where he questioned why the US always seems to make things into an X vs Y dynamic, instead of X and Y.

        “Why does it have to be cat people and dog people? Why can’t we just love both of them?!”

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      His stand-up is actually really great. I just never really liked him all that much on TDS.

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      I liked his from-home stuff during Covid, but never liked TDS with Trevor Noah. I’m not exactly sure why. Too silly, not “edgy,” insightful, or hard hitting enough I guess. John Oliver’s show is pretty good though.

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      I agree. See also, Seth Myers. Like I get that hosting a regular show is hard because you need to consistently entertain with fresh material. But damn do they both miss the mark there.

      And don’t get me wrong. They both seem like sincere and down to earth dudes, but funny, they ain’t

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        I really like Seth Meyers. His material is very targeted and curated to his audience, though, which he’s gotten to know very well by interacting with them, especially in YT comments (indirectly). You’re either in that audience or you’re not.

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      Kinda like John Oliver for me, He’s a better writer than performer I think and I don’t like his delivery

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    Stewart is great, but I wonder if any of the original writing staff is returning as well. He didn’t carry the original show alone, and even the opening monologue will hit different if there’s a new team behind it.

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      I assume he’ll bring some Apple TV folks along.

      But also the show has been solid for years. Trevor did a great job, the guest hosts have done an great job. The show is and has been great.

      Now, that isn’t to say you don’t need a good host. The guest hosts only having a week or so don’t have time to make the show truly their own, but they still add their personal touch.

      Trevor, during the pandemic especially, added a huge personal touch and really made the show work well.

      Jon, coming back, is going to have a lot of fun and I’m looking forward to it.

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    I’m the asshole who liked the og show and host Killborn. I didn’t watch it initially when Stewart took over. It was a different show… Man what an idiot I was… While I liked the og version Stewart made it so much better. Glad to see him back in some form.

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      I liked Craig too, that was a fun era for Comedy Central. I remember they played a lot of Absolutely Fabulous and Viva Variety back then. Good times.

      It’s really better to think of them as two completely different shows both with very different philosophies and strengths. One just happened to begin when the other ended. Also Jon’s show took a while to find its legs.

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        Kilborn had a comedy show that looked like a news show. Even the interviews of the daily guest had a zany, fake-pressure vibe.

        Stewart used comedy to get people engaged in a news show. Everyone else that has tried has either had too much comedy, or too much news. Too much news sounds like video essays and too much comedy isn’t as impactful.

        I liked the Kilborn show. He kind of an asshole, but I’m not one to hold that against people. But I feel we need the Stewart show.

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    Can you americans explain what this means to everyone else in the world? Seems like a big deal to some people…

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      He has a great mix of humor and serious discussions about important topics. He calls out guests for avoiding answering difficult questions etc.

      I cant even express it very well, but the man is a legend. One of a kind.

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        Tucker Carlson’s career after that Hardball segment!

        Sounds like what a journalist should be.

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      Jon Stewart is quite awesome in my book. He is legit funny and he put the Daily Show on the map with being officially a comedy show (and it was hilariously funny) but at the same time being just about the only reliable news source as he just cut through the political bullshit from both sides (again, in a super funny way). He has great interviews with politicians where he calls them out on their bullshit so hard that you wonder why any politician would still want to do interviews with him, but yet they kept coming.

      Thing is, you can tell that he researches and knows the subjects that he talks about and he actually cares, so if during interviews the guy comes up with some bullshit arguments Jon would typically tear him a new hole with actual facts. He was like the original “he crushed that guy” guy. IIRC, he (temporarily) crushed ticket Carlson’s career by literally ending tickets show overnight with an interview. Unfortunately, Jon retired and Tucker was fucking back.

      His show also was the birth place of other comedians like john Oliver (who went on to make the similar great show “last week tonight”), Steve carell, and Stephen Colbert

      The guy following after him, Trevor Noah, was just a sad little shadow, honestly, and in stoked to hear Jon is back as he has shown that he hasn’t lost his touch.

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      He’s willing to ask the questions other networks are to afraid to ask. He has destroyed careers because of it look up jon Stewart and hard ball. We do have NPR and MSNBC but they still won’t ask the hard questions or confront the hosts. I’ve heard that only a couple of times on NPR but only lately. Plus Jon can taunt the people to afraid to come on unlike a professional news orgs.

      When he got together with Colbert and did the Colbert report and tricked the entire GOP that was just icing on the cake.

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        Yeah he sure “destroyed” Tucker Carlson’s career after that Hardball segment!

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            And rake in millions and become a cult figure. Really ruined him let me tell you what.

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              Sure he was successful in his second career as a Fox hack (though ultimately ejected from that as well and bumped down another level to a twitter video guy) - it’s a lot to ask to not just take someone down so hard they have to not only leave their job and go work at a different kind of company, but can never be successful again.

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                He was a hack at CNN. Jon Stewart may have gotten him fired, but you can’t seriously look at Tucker Carlson and say Jon ruined his career. Listen, I hate the man with a passion, but he’s living high on the hog.

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                  Like I said, he ruined his career in the mainstream media, after which he did what so many people who couldn’t make it in the mainstream have done before him and went into the less prestigious right-wing propaganda industry where standards are lower if you’re willing to say abhorrent things. Tucker was indeed very successful at that second career and is a rich man (though he was already with the Swanson frozen food fortune) but I don’t think that invalidates the initial takedown.

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      In addition to what the others have said, Jon was a strong advocate for the 9/11 First Responders. Being a New Yorker himself, he took it extremely personally when Congress (controlled by, well go ahead and guess) was dragging their feet on giving these guys the health benefits they needed.

      His testimony before Congress was fantastic, and ultimately he succeeded

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        Whoever uploaded that realised they could cut it to exactly the right length.

        I didn’t even notice the first time I saw it and I don’t know it’s deliberate on Jon’s part but the speech and reaction fit perfectly.

        It’s an incredible speech and worthy of that detail.

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      He was the best host of The Daily Show, a show that made current events and politics palatable to Americans that have Comedy Central. He’s also immensely likable as a person. He fought for the US government to uphold their promise to first responders of 9/11 that all have mesothelioma from asbestos inhalation. He generally cuts to the core of most issues and doesn’t suffer fools. He will call people out directly to their faces.

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      He’s a much beloved comedian and a great show host. I think people are just excited to have him back again, especially in this contentious political environment where he thrives as “the guy who asks hard questions when nobody else will”.

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      He would have made the best president in America’s history (yes). Look to Ukraine for what you get when you elect the guy who speaks truth to power.