New York man convicted of murdering woman in car thatr turned into his driveway
www.theguardian.com
Kevin Monahan, 65, shot 20-year-old Kaylin Gillis after a car she was riding in with friends made a wrong turn on his property

Kevin Monahan, 65, shot 20-year-old Kaylin Gillis after a car she was riding in with friends made a wrong turn on his property

A man was convicted of second-degree murder Tuesday for fatally shooting a young woman when the SUV she was riding in mistakenly drove up his rural driveway in upstate New York.

A jury found Kevin Monahan, 66, guilty of second-degree murder for shooting 20-year-old Kaylin Gillis on a Saturday night last April after she and her friends pulled into his long, curving driveway near the Vermont border while they were trying to find another house.

The group’s caravan of two cars and a motorcycle began leaving once they realized their mistake. Authorities said Monahan came out to his porch and fired twice from his shotgun, with the second shot hitting Gillis in the neck as she sat in the front passenger seat of an SUV driven by her boyfriend.

  • voracitude@lemmy.world
    2311·
    10 个月前

    Good. What kind of a fucking psychopath sees a car of lost young people and decides, instead of offering directions or at worst leaving them the fuck alone, that they deserve assault with a deadly weapon?

    Goddamn deranged.

            • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
              20·
              10 个月前

              “No taxation without representation” is just a catchy slogan, not a legal principle. It has the same legal standing as “if the glove don’t fit you must acquit.”

            • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
              12·
              10 个月前

              taxation without representation

              That’s a Declaration of Independence item, not US Constitution.

              It was in reference to Britain passing the Stamp Act (and other things) charging fees on people living in what is today the United States to prop up the treasury of Britain.

              • TallonMetroid@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                10 个月前

                What usually gets left out of the story is that the taxes were imposed in part to pay for the French and Indian War, which the colonists started. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
              9·
              10 个月前

              The idea being that, felons are morally reprehensible people, and therefore cannot be trusted to vote in a “civic” manner.

              The reality is corporations- and the rich people that control them- are by far the more morally bankrupt group.

              not that I agree with that, per se. (though I would say it’s true of people like Bill Hwang of Archegos Capital, or Elizebeth Holmes of Theranos… Or the Koch brothers… or Trump. but the average criminal? far from it.)

          • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            10 个月前

            100%. Disenfranchisement is absolutely encouragement to selectively legislate and enforce. All these rural areas housing federal prisons would positively loose their shit if felons could vote. Because to them that completely defeats the point of the federal prisons.

      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        41·
        10 个月前

        An old, sweet lady was once talking to my wife about the blackout curtains in our bedroom. She says she bought some like it so “antifa couldn’t see inside” her house.

        It makes me so angry that Fox News convinced her to be scared of a boogyman.

        • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
          131·
          10 个月前

          I’ve tried saying “don’t fall for those conspiracy theories”. Don’t know if it made him rethink but he sure didn’t spout any more.

        • lad@programming.dev
          3·
          10 个月前

          I thought the end was going to be about how you should replace the blackouts with regular ones (or none at all) because how else would others be able to tell if you behave like a dignified person

      • Cataphract
        417·
        10 个月前

        I think we need to be mindful that we can’t point at one media organization or “political aisle” for this type of rhetoric. @Microw@lemm.ee above encapsulates it beautifully.

        Some areas simply have no-good groups of people like neonazis that will go into houses and try to take them over

        The fear mongering isn’t subject to particular ideologies and anyone is susceptible. These tactics are being used by nearly(edit) everyone in the political realm.

        edit: just gotta say I love the downvotes with no replies. There is a middle-ground nuanced objectivity where neither “both parties are the same” or “my political side is holier than thou” apply. Go touch some grass or learn how to have an actual conversation with those you disagree with online.

    • originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee
      421·
      10 个月前

      Someone who has been conditioned by decades of fear propaganda, and taught that his guns are the only thing standing between him and the government/immigrants/criminals/whatever the fear of the day is

    • Deceptichum@kbin.social
      35·
      10 个月前

      Oh it’s worse than that, they were already leaving when he came out and shot them.

      oh and this bullshit excuse:

      He said he tripped over nails sticking up from the deck, lost his balance and the shotgun struck the deck. That, he said, accidentally caused his gun to fire at the Ford Explorer carrying Gillis.

      • thefartographer@lemm.ee
        282·
        10 个月前

        The first shot was an accident. Obviously the second shot was to prove to them that the first one was an accident cuz if he were trying to shoot them, then he’d just shoot them. He probably tried shouting those words, but realized they were too far so he just had to show them what a great shot he was when he was trying by actually shooting one of them.

        Totally innocent miscommunication.

    • Microw@lemm.ee
      246·
      10 个月前

      The only thing about this I can somewhat understand is that it wasnt one car, it was two cars and a motorcycle. I would probably be a bit scared if such a big group of people suddenly show up to my rural house.

      But 1. shooting them, and 2. while they were already driving away, is what makes this so deranged.

      • Kbobabob@lemmy.world
        296·
        10 个月前

        WTF is going on in your life that cars coming up your driveway would scare you? Really?!

        You think that some death squad has your number and they sent the whole gang?

        • Microw@lemm.ee
          1120·
          10 个月前

          Some areas simply have no-good groups of people like neonazis that will go into houses and try to take them over

          • voracitude@lemmy.world
            152·
            10 个月前

            I would also like to know what areas. I’ve lived in a lot of places, and never once heard of neonazis just up and taking someone’s home, certainly not anywhere like the US. Internet searches turn up nothing. Cite your sources, please.

    • Rooskie91@discuss.online
      194·
      10 个月前

      This is the nature of widespread gun ownership. Owning a gun turns every argument, every perceived wrong, every bruised ego into a potentially deadly situation. Buying a gun, “for protection,” is the dumbest fucking statement I’ve ever heard. Increasing the number of guns laying around ALWAYS creates a more dangerous environment.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
          61·
          10 个月前

          I’m going to start by determining whether or not said “threats” are actually threats to begin with.

          Because most of them aren’t. Most gun nuts (disclaimer: I could probably be defined by some standards as a gun nut myself) have this nutty pathological notion that every single person, shadow, and tiny thing that goes bump in the night is personally out to get them. Given the overwhelming majority of non-gun-nut people who do not, in fact, get got on a daily basis despite not even having a gun to defend themselves we can actually conclude that this is just unfounded paranoia.

          Just saying.

          • maness300@lemmy.world
            12·
            10 个月前

            Yikes, it’s crazy the mental gymnastics you’re willing to go through to avoid admitting you can’t defend yourself.

  • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world
    1152·
    10 个月前

    I’m an instacart driver and at least a few times a week I get the wrong driveway but then figure it out very quickly. This shit goes through my mind every single time.

    That’s just the country I live in. I pulled into the wrong driveway and I instantly wonder idly if this is going to lead to my fucking death.

    • SatanicNotMessianic
      534·
      10 个月前

      Okay, sure, but have you ever even considered uparmoring your car and mounting an automatic weapon to it? It’s like people never even played Car Wars. With some armor and a SAW they could have practiced their rights, and with a .50 they probably could have cut his house in half.

      I mean, gas costs will go up with the additional weight and you need additional crew members to serve the weapons, but that’s the price of freedom.

      Alternatively, you could try delivering the groceries by trebuchet from the back of a flatbed truck, but the automatic weapon thing is less likely to result in them cancelling the tip.

    • Ben Hur Horse Race@lemm.ee
      81·
      10 个月前

      ok but where? I don’t think about this where I used to live in the US, but last summer we were in rural north carolina and I did a three point turn off someones driveway and I was not relaxed

      • stoly@lemmy.world
        4·
        10 个月前

        The point is that it’s scary to be a delivery driver. It’s more dangerous than being a cop.

        • Ben Hur Horse Race@lemm.ee
          1·
          10 个月前

          I delivered pizzas for 3 different pizzarias and flowers also… I know the statistics show more delivery drivers run into trouble than cops get shot, but I think thats down to numbers- when I was slinging pies there were easily 5 pizza places with 5-6 drivers each on trip after trip all day 7 days a week and I would guess 10 cops on duty mostly sitting on their ass in a cop car busting white high school kids for weed at bullshit traffic stops… anyway yeah I hear you, but I think this is VERY tightly linked with the area you deliver in. my white bread ass area never not once made me feel the sliiiightest bit afraid

    • player2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      10 个月前

      This could be a commercial for the cyber truck, the only bulletproof instacart approved delivery vehicle.

  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
    928·
    10 个月前

    If only those kids had had enough of their own guns, this tragedy could have been avoided. Somehow. I guess. That’s how it works, right? More guns?

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      10 个月前

      Since the late 1800s, 494 MILLION firearms have been produced and sold in the US. That’s way more than one per person, including babies and toddlers.

      when’s it gonna be enough I wonder?

      Maybe it really isn’t about more guns, just more profits for the arms dealers? Maybe we could skip the middle-men and dead children murdered in their schools if we just pay off the arms dealers?

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
    81·
    10 个月前

    So guy claims he felt threatened, didn’t call cops, grabbed gun instead and expects people aren’t just going to assume he’s being a gun nut when he acts exactly like one?

    • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
      48·
      10 个月前

      Felt threatened in the time it took them to turn around. Jesus tapdancing christ on a cracker what a fucking snowflake with a hair trigger.

      How does somebody like this make it through the day without meds?!?

  • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
    80·
    10 个月前

    He claimed the gun just went off when he tripped and fell. Fortunately the jury didn’t buy his defense.

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    651·
    10 个月前

    I hope he rots the rest of his life away behind bars.

    Such a miserable, worthless excuse for a human being to fucking execute someone for having the wrong directions.

  • ABoxOfPhotons@lemmy.world
    6010·
    10 个月前

    It’s gotten to the point where firearm related murders in the US is practically natural causes, it happens so often… Whoever thought it would be a good idea to flood the country with guns is an absolute moron.

  • TheFonz@lemmy.world
    425·
    10 个月前

    Per the NBC article, it took them an hour to arrest the guy:

    When officers arrived at Monahan’s house to investigate the shooting, he refused to come out, Murphy said. Authorities spoke with him through a 911 dispatcher and in person for about an hour before he was taken into custody, according to the sheriff.

    How wild is that

  • blazeknave@lemmy.world
    272·
    10 个月前

    Execute the motherfucker to show these fucks the barrel points both ways. Set an example. Fucking lunatics.