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That’s on you, pal. I don’t feel entitled to anything but the same basic respect I give anyone, man, woman, or otherwise. All I want is not to be looked at as an existential threat just for existing and I really don’t think that’s unreasonable.

Feel better?

A bear isn’t trying to find a dating partner in a human woman…

You’re sick in the head if you think being depressed over being labelled an existential threat makes me dangerous.

The issue isn’t with you, it’s with common experiences women have had with men.

And that’s exactly the problem. I’m not those men. I have no intention of acting like those men. Yet I’m still scared that I’m going to get pepper sprayed anyway just for asking a woman for directions.

I am listening, and what I’m hearing is that I, as an innocent person, am a source of terror for someone I’ve never met because of a fact of my biology that I have no control over. I have no ability to change the feelings of someone else, because no matter what, those feelings are only able to be changed by the person feeling them. I can say I’m innocent and not a threat until I’m blue in the face, I can act as non-threatening as I possibly can, I can leave women alone in public. None of that matters because I’m not the one with the power over those feelings.

It’s toxic to not want to be treated like a monster for something I didn’t do?

There are a lot of phrases from reddit that annoy me due to overuse. “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” and “fuck around and find out” both annoy the absolute piss right out of me now.

Your “observable reality” is based on heavily skewed statistics and anecdotes.

There was no chance of a productive discussion with you because you’re fully convinced that your mindset is the only valid one. Why else would you so completely dismiss the views of the people that are being actively harmed by this shit? You didn’t want a discussion, you just wanted me to stop causing you cognitive dissonance so you can keep telling yourself you’re right.

You’re a bigot in an academic’s clothes. This whole conversation, your slavish devotion to “the statistics” have made you sound like far-right-wingers do when they talk about Black people. “10% of the population but they commit 35% of the crime so I’m right to be afraid of them.”

The world is better with you in it.

That’s not the sentiment you’ve been conveying by lumping me and billions of other innocent men in with the small percentage of us that are subhuman filth.

If I were to say “I’d rather face down a bear than be near a black person,” you’d rightfully call me a racist.

Because I really doubt coming to this thread upset and angry did anything productive for ya.

Nope, all it did was put me in contact with someone who wants to justify their own closed-minded bigotry by dismissing other people’s lived experiences and further convince me that the world would be better off if I killed myself.

But fuck male fee fees, they’re a myth anyway, right? There’s no man that’s safe to be around and society changes too slowly, so it’s best for everyone that they should be quarantined or exterminated.

Nah, that’s working as intended according to the “bear>man” crowd.

Because cars are a useful tool made up of physical parts that can wear out, while games are an entertainment product made of ever-changing software. You need a car. You don’t need video games.

Not to mention, it’s a standard now, and the old Supercharger protocol is being phased out in favor of another standardized one (I forget which). Further development done on their chargers from here on out is going to be done by a consortium of companies rather than in-house anyway.

The fact that you lump every man in with the worst of society is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. Swap “men” with “black people” and see how it sounds.

We are people, not monsters.

The plot here is that I recognize my fear as patently ridiculous and am working on myself to try and allay it, rather than shitting on all women everywhere. Being constantly told that I’m more terrifying than X, Y, or Z thing because of my sex is one of the main contributors to my exceedingly low self-esteem and suggests to me that society at large believes I deserve everything that’s happened to me.

You know, kinda like “look what she was wearing” does for a rape survivor.

Men are human beings, just like you.

Attack the point, not the person.

Calling women, trans and cis alike, misandrist for feeling unsafe around men, is absolute BS.

Then you need to respect my fear of women equally, since I’ve been drugged multiple times, assaulted while sleeping, shamelessly groped in public in broad daylight, and so on. I have no interest in continuing your sad little game of one-downsmanship, but if my mindset is misogynist, then your similarly-derived, similarly-worded mindset is misandrist.

Why would anyone ever do that?

I dunno, ask my ex, the most outspoken feminist I ever met. Her exact response to me telling her that I’d been assaulted was “oh boo hoo.” Shortly thereafter, she tried to spermjack me.

So then you recognize that my fear is unfounded, whether I can convince myself of that fact or not? Perhaps even pathologically so?

Also, ask any man you’re close to (if you’re able to get over the crushing fear of being near someone with a penis) how many times he’s been assaulted. Then ask him why he’s never reported it. If he had, he was either going to get called a pussy (mostly by women, in my experience) or he’d get laughed out of whatever police station he reported it at. Oh, or because he’s afraid she’ll flip the script and claim that he raped her, which people will actually listen to. Whoops, there goes several years of his life, all for the low, low price of getting sexually assaulted.

If you want to talk about unspoken realities, the male sexual assault rates are a particularly grim one.

Somebody needs to get on deduplicating UTF8 ASAP

The way you feel about men is the way I feel about women since I’ve been sexually assaulted by several, but I’ll bet you’re gonna call me a piece of shit for that or say the assaults were justified because I’m a man.

If we’re gonna take wide swings about other people’s characters, be aware that you’re not immune.