Why would I waste time making complex responses to someone who thinks communists are liberals if they don’t praise capitalist dictatorships? Tankies completely lack political culture, like all right wingers. It’s a miracle they can read at all.
We know you aren’t “wasting time” because you don’t have any arguments, just thought terminating cliches. I’m really hoping you’re just an edgy 14 year old and not a grown adult, because this is just sad.
Bruh, people here are calling communists and anarchists “liberals”. How do I even argue with dumb shit like this? Fascists can’t be reasoned with, whether they like the 3rd Reich or the DPRK.
They’re not calling communists and anarchists liberals, they’re calling liberals liberals. Fascism doesn’t mean “people I don’t agree with” words actually mean things. You’d know this, if you weren’t a liberal, even if you don’t think you are one. Conservatives are liberals too, as liberalism is the dominant political idea in the west.
You might “believe” in it, but what actions have you done to accomplish it? How do you intend to go about it? Peacefully, I’m assuming? Because to use violence is authoritarian redfash tankie, yes?
So I want you to ask your landlord nicely and peacefully, to give up their property, entirely without violence, see how that goes, just convince them it’s wrong, that’ll work, right? They just don’t know that it’s a bad thing! We “tankies” don’t like violence, but we recognize it as an unfortunate necessity to help the struggling and the downtrodden.
Or is this not about that? Is this about evil authoritarians like Stalin and Mao? I’m assuming you’re a yank, or at least live in the west. You’ve grown up in a capitalist education system. Where did you learn that these people are bad? Which group of people ensures that every student in the west learns that these people are bad? Don’t you think the capitalists would have a vested interest in trying to convince people that any alternative to capitalism is even worse than it? Could it be that the things you’ve heard about “communist dictators” are just lies?
Don’t know why I’m wasting my time to be honest. I hope you’ll think on this, but I know you won’t. Smug ignorance is far more comfortable than challenging your pre-concieved notions.
How do you intend to go about it? Peacefully, I’m assuming? Because to use violence is authoritarian redfash tankie, yes?
Violence isn’t bed per se; it’s just a means to an end. It should be a last resort, but since capitalists have made it clear that they will not give up their system peacefully, it is necessary in order to remove them from power. Non-violence is a liberal lie spread to ensure no one challenges the status quo, hence why they gave themself the state monopoly on violence.
(note: I’m using “liberal” here to mean “liberal”, not “actual leftist” like it’s commonly seen in tankie circles)
I’m assuming you’re a yank, or at least live in the west.
I’m French.
You’ve grown up in a capitalist education system. Where did you learn that these people are bad? Which group of people ensures that every student in the west learns that these people are bad? Don’t you think the capitalists would have a vested interest in trying to convince people that any alternative to capitalism is even worse than it?
True. However, school specifically focused on the USSR and the eastern bloc in general, which was a genocidal dictatorship (this is an objective truth all historians agree with). Other alternatives to capitalism were not talked about much, if at all.
Could it be that the things you’ve heard about “communist dictators” are just lies?
Could it be that the things *you’*ve heard about “communist dictators” are just lies? You’re not immune to Russian and Chinese propaganda.
Don’t know why I’m wasting my time to be honest. I hope you’ll think on this, but I know you won’t. Smug ignorance is far more comfortable than challenging your pre-concieved notions.
Same. You’ll never convince me I’m a liberal (because I’m not), and I’ll never convince you I’m an actual communist and you’re not (because anyone who supports genocidal imperialistic dictatorships isn’t a leftist).
Lmao this is exactly how libs argue, a bunch of quotes with snappy responses but nothing of substance to make a valid argument.
Why would I waste time making complex responses to someone who thinks communists are liberals if they don’t praise capitalist dictatorships? Tankies completely lack political culture, like all right wingers. It’s a miracle they can read at all.
We know you aren’t “wasting time” because you don’t have any arguments, just thought terminating cliches. I’m really hoping you’re just an edgy 14 year old and not a grown adult, because this is just sad.
Bruh, people here are calling communists and anarchists “liberals”. How do I even argue with dumb shit like this? Fascists can’t be reasoned with, whether they like the 3rd Reich or the DPRK.
They’re not calling communists and anarchists liberals, they’re calling liberals liberals. Fascism doesn’t mean “people I don’t agree with” words actually mean things. You’d know this, if you weren’t a liberal, even if you don’t think you are one. Conservatives are liberals too, as liberalism is the dominant political idea in the west.
Liberal doesn’t mean “someone who believes in the abolition of private property”, words actually mean things.
You might “believe” in it, but what actions have you done to accomplish it? How do you intend to go about it? Peacefully, I’m assuming? Because to use violence is authoritarian redfash tankie, yes?
So I want you to ask your landlord nicely and peacefully, to give up their property, entirely without violence, see how that goes, just convince them it’s wrong, that’ll work, right? They just don’t know that it’s a bad thing! We “tankies” don’t like violence, but we recognize it as an unfortunate necessity to help the struggling and the downtrodden.
Or is this not about that? Is this about evil authoritarians like Stalin and Mao? I’m assuming you’re a yank, or at least live in the west. You’ve grown up in a capitalist education system. Where did you learn that these people are bad? Which group of people ensures that every student in the west learns that these people are bad? Don’t you think the capitalists would have a vested interest in trying to convince people that any alternative to capitalism is even worse than it? Could it be that the things you’ve heard about “communist dictators” are just lies?
Don’t know why I’m wasting my time to be honest. I hope you’ll think on this, but I know you won’t. Smug ignorance is far more comfortable than challenging your pre-concieved notions.
Violence isn’t bed per se; it’s just a means to an end. It should be a last resort, but since capitalists have made it clear that they will not give up their system peacefully, it is necessary in order to remove them from power. Non-violence is a liberal lie spread to ensure no one challenges the status quo, hence why they gave themself the state monopoly on violence.
(note: I’m using “liberal” here to mean “liberal”, not “actual leftist” like it’s commonly seen in tankie circles)
I’m French.
True. However, school specifically focused on the USSR and the eastern bloc in general, which was a genocidal dictatorship (this is an objective truth all historians agree with). Other alternatives to capitalism were not talked about much, if at all.
Could it be that the things *you’*ve heard about “communist dictators” are just lies? You’re not immune to Russian and Chinese propaganda.
Same. You’ll never convince me I’m a liberal (because I’m not), and I’ll never convince you I’m an actual communist and you’re not (because anyone who supports genocidal imperialistic dictatorships isn’t a leftist).
Your country has had a 70+ year anti-communist campaign that’s been very effective, as is shown in your case.
The USSR is the only reason France isn’t speaking German rn: https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not