The Journal reported executives at SpaceX worried Elon Musk was on drugs after an “unhinged” all-hands meeting in which he slurred and rambled.
This is the way he’s always been and it’s only getting worse.
Employees have always had to manage him not the other way around; a perpetual petulant toddler banging his hands on the table; ruining everything he touches with his Reverse-Midas-Touch so they keep him at bay.
This is increasingly the characterization of so many rich and powerful people.
Soooo weird…
If you have money, then in the business world you have intrinsic value.
When you have enough, you reach the tipping point where it doesn’t just need to be the only thing you provide, but it outweighs others ways you hurt the business.
The less your ideas are useful and the more money you hoard, the faster it changes.
It can go quickly downhill when the CEOs wealth is tied to stock price.
And ends disastrously when they go somewhere that workers aren’t used to them. Because the CEO was never told they used to be babysat just for their money, they legit believe they’re a genius
It’s impressive then that the starship stack is stainless steel not carbon. Musk planned a giant carbon fibre rocket. The engineers he hired got him to change size and change material
You have to think who gets that wealthy and is like “Let’s go to work!” You have to be psychotic to have more wealth than you can ever spend and not go fuck off somewhere and enjoy it. I would never go back to a job even if I was running the place, I’d just do whatever I wanted to do for the rest of my life.
See, idk if I could do that the rest of my life. I’m dreading retirement, even though it’s a long way off, as I have no idea how I’ll handle it…
I could do maybe a month of nothing then I start getting antsy and depressed. Working gives structure to my life, and while I really hate getting up and going to it, it’s better for me than the alternative…even when I don’t have to worry about money.I feel you. On the other hand, you might find something different to pass/spend your time with. Maybe you return to your job. Maybe you start a new company, maybe you start to do arts and crafts, or…
I feel you. On the other hand, you might find something different to pass/spend your time with. Maybe you return to your job. Maybe you start a new company, maybe you start to do arts and crafts, or…
Get some hobbies.
Like building things? Have a workshop that you go to to keep routine and build things for fun.
Yeah, I’m a Stone Mason. Guess I could make faerie castles out of pebbles…
That’s a pretty sad revelation. We’ve been so beaten down that we can’t imagine being happy pursuing whatever we’d like to do day after day without “creating value.”
And we only get this one go at life. One life to live and we’ve been so sapped of the entire concept of “living” that work is our life. How sad that is.
It just seems crazy. I don’t know, it just feels so wrong to hear people think this way.
Ehhhh. I’m a Stone Mason working in conservation, my job is really satisfying and rewarding. I enjoy my work generally, and passing on the skills to the next generation is an extra bonus feel good. I wish I was able to structure my own life enough to not want to go to work if I was independently wealthy, but currently struggling with possibly adhd or autism spectrum stuff, and while I would love to be able to work on stuff for myself I need external structure…
Yes, I know that last sentence was a bit fucky, I’m in bed and lazy, not changing it.
Birds of a feather got to stick together.
And yet yall make it sound like a bad thing
We call it the Mierdas Touch.
Phony Stark and his Mierdas Touch. nice
@cybervseas @Uglyhead Ah, a fellow shitty pun connoisseur
It’s news sure but is anyone thinking it’s groundbreaking news that Elon musk might be on drugs most of the time?
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100% an upper or “microdosing” on a hallucinogen. Just a nibble of psilocybin every day before impregnating a secretary and after bed.
This is entirely unrelated, aside from the stupidity of the subject, but I’m reminded of that fella who repeatedly injected mushrooms to try to get high. He sterilized the mushrooms by boiling, then blended, loaded into a hypo, and slowly plunged the mixture into his arm. He ended up with a complete systemic fungal infection but survived. I wish Musk would get creative with it.
Nightmare fuel, or back story for a superhero… idk.
What does his glabella have to do with anything?
This is the first I’ve heard of it actually.
He was on Rogan smoking a joint. Not that weed is a particularly harmful drug but I bet you would catch 0 other CEOs doing it so brazenly.
I mean he had a half a puff of a joint. Not that alcohol is a particularly harmful drug but I’m sure plenty of CEOs enjoy a beer from time to time without becoming full blown drug addicts.
Has there ever been an all-hands meeting where the CEO was not cringeworthy?
I just assume it’s the minimum amount of yearly cringe you have to endure to stay employed.
I’ve been in some. Plenty of small companies with CEOs
If a C-level meeting ends up getting more than average press coverage, it turned into cringe.
… Musk’s drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, …
Explains…soooo much. Still an asshole, though.
Yeah, and sure he can pass a drug test if you consider:
LSD: 12 hour wash-out time for a blood test
Cocaine: 24 hour wash-out time for a blood test
MDMA: 24-36 hour wash-out time for a blood test
Ketamine: 24 hour wash-out time for a blood test, and it’s easy to get a prescription for off-label use to treat depressionSo basically, do all the drugs you want Friday night, by Monday morning you’ll be clean enough for a blood test.
You think musk worried about drug tests? Interesting.
What are they gonna do? Fire him?
Isn’t that a queens of the stone age song
At SpaceX, where illicit drug use could jeopardize the billions of dollars of government contracts enjoyed by the defense contractor due to federal regulations, The Journal’s reports of Musk’s drug use put at risk nearly $1 trillion in assets held by investors, about 13,000 jobs, and the future of the US space program.
And I thought Twitter was going to be his biggest fuck up.
I will admit, him being on drugs did not occur to me as a possible explanation for his ‘taking tesla private’ tweet that torpeedoed his networth, but having been confronted by it now I am having a hard time not believing it.
Musk’s drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, according to people familiar with the matter, is at the center of an extensive new report from The Journal that details how executives at several of the billionaire’s companies have struggled to manage his substance use and erratic behavior.
Just FYI
According to people familiar with the matter
Means “We have no source for this and are probably making it up”
Business Insider is a tabloid shitrag these days
This is based on a Wall Street Journal report (which I didn’t link because it’s paywalled), so your strange anger at BI is a wee bit misplaced.
No. Media bullshit is sitting at the core of a lot of today’s problems and the massive polarisation on basically any topic.
Anger at low level journalism rags and even more at outlets trying to look respectable while actually having a similiar quality (and that definitely includes Business Insider ever since they were bought by the shithole of journalism that is Axel Springer SE) cannot be misplaced at all.
I really do think he started doing drugs a few years back.
He smoked pot on Joe Rogan’s show.
He doesn’t seem like the sort of person who can have the self-control to stop there. He’s try uppers and downers and anything else to make himself feel good now that people are calling him out on his bullshit.
The dude was on top of the fucking world in February 2018 when he launched his car into orbit. In July of that year, he called a guy a pedo because the guy said Elon’s toy submarine idea was worse than useless.
If he had kept his dumb mouth shut, we would all still mostly believe in Elon’s bullshit myth.
Instead, it’s mostly common knowledge that Elon is a narcissistic man baby, and has been for his entire life.
He would rather we didn’t know about the emerald mine, but everyone knows. We know he bought his way to every success he’s ever had, and that he has zero natural talent.
And that has to drive him mad. So he does drugs and plays video games to escape from reality. A reality where he isn’t loved, and is actually viewed as the prime example of the problem with allowing billionaires to exist at all.
He use to do drugs. He still does but he use to too.
Of all the problems I have with this man, drugs are not one.
I guess it depends: is he a more awful person because of the drugs, or would he be a more awful person without them?
What a sad downspiral for the guy. There’s no way this ends well and we’re all forced to attend the party.
Hasn’t he been relatively open about his habitual micro and macro dosing of ketamine?
There’s a world of difference between a micro and a macro dose. You don’t want to be anywhere near work with the latter.
Sounds like he’s having his Howard Hughes moment…
You mean… he isn’t aways on drugs?!
Maybe he should be
There are them that shouldn’t take drugs. And there are them that NEED to be taking the proper ones under medical direction.
I’ve been thinking Musk needs to be taking some under a Doctor’s care…
And permit a human being to be smarter than him in any field, regardless of how little experience he has in it?! Heresy!
Maybe the problem was that he wasn’t on drugs during the meeting
Proprecia so his plugs don’t fall out 😅
Companies perform drug checks for a reason. People who lead large organizations while regularly getting off on drugs are usually the biggest psychopaths around.
Drug tests are just to keep their boots on the faces of the workers. It’s disgusting and invasive.
Don’t be silly. Drug testing is largely for worker’s comp. Think the insurance wants to pay out on an accident a fucked up employee got into? That has nothing to do with the employer.
That’s why the vast majority of jobs coded as “clerical” do not require a test. Employers don’t want to pay for all that if they don’t have to.
EDIT: Lemmings who know nothing of the employment field, but want to get righteously angry.
I’m sorry you’re eating downvotes but this is the absolute truth in a lot of cases. I put in 18 years at various restaurants, worked every position except manager. I’ve never needed a drug test to get a job, and every job I ever had in that industry people were definitely on drugs at work, but drug tests are mandatory after a workplace injury. The reason being they don’t actually care whether you’re high at work but they can use the fact that almost everyone in a restaurant is high in order to cut costs under the guise of “workplace safety”.
There are exceptions, though. For instance, anyone who works in any capacity in the aviation industry is legally required to be tested for drugs. That includes, for example, software engineers working on booking systems.
Because there are no instances in history where forcing drug use had been weaponized at the international level. Man, sometimes it’s so easy to see how lemmy is close to the same dark web that spams drug adverts on matrix.
You’re seriously suggesting that drug tests are designed to protect employees from employers forcing them to do drugs? That’s ridiculous.
False username, not sentient.
The higher up you go, the less likely it is that you’d be tested for drugs. We could empty board rooms if we insisted on drug testing at that level.
Yes, but I’m not really arguing against that claim. The higher up you go, the more psychopaths you have as well. They can have all the drugs they want, the real work usually doesn’t depend on them, and psychopathy helps them make money if not contribute to society.
And that reason is to keep insurance premiums down.
So why do insurance premiums go up if people use drugs? Imaginary reasons?
I guess that Marijuana that he awkwardly smoked to be “cool” was a gateway drug to much worse.
