Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft said that while he didn’t want to do it, he had to remind people of how “severe” the situation is.
A top Republican official in Missouri is threatening to remove President Joe Biden from appearing on the ballot as retaliation for the determination in two other states that Donald Trump doesn’t qualify because he “engaged in insurrection.”
“What has happened in Colorado & Maine is disgraceful & undermines our republic,” Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft wrote on the social media site X on Friday. “While I expect the Supreme Court to overturn this, if not, Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!”
Ashcroft’s post came shortly after the Supreme Court agreed to review a decision by Colorado’s high court that found Trump could be barred from the state’s primary ballot because of his actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
So yeah, if Biden commits insurgency, then his should be off the ballot. But last time I checked he hasn’t come anywhere close.
But, Republicans would have you believe “fair is fair.” Trump got impeached, so Biden should get impeached. Trump got kicked off the ballot, so Biden should get kicked off the ballot. This has nothing to do with pesky things like details and rule of law, it’s just about my side vs your side, unless my side is winning, then I’ll take the law into consideration again.
The logic of “We’re going to punish your guy for what our guy did” makes me laugh… until I cry.
it’s just about my side vs your side
That’s what authoritarians literally believe. It’s a tribal mentality. “Might makes right.” “The ends justify the means.”
Still waiting for Harris to become a secret trans woman like Obama.
You’re forgetting that for these people, “commit insurgency” means “supports things I don’t like”.
The real question is what Thomas’s dissenting opinion would be when the SC rules otherwise, and if he gets paid by the word.
Excuse me? Are you just going to ignore his wanton use of the word “malarkey”?
He committed an insurgency… against the road when he got into his Mustang and put it in gear back in the 70s.
Eventually, we will have no one on the ballot.
I am really tired of Republicans threatening lawlessness in response to application of lawful consequences.
At this point, they deserve to have some lawless consequences applied to them, if that’s what they crave so badly.
Why would you give them what they want?
He means a crowbar to the knees.
*Tonya Harding enters the chat*
Some men you just can’t otherwise reach.
I mean, good luck, you’ll have to provide better justification than revenge to keep it from being overturned.
They don’t care. It’s all about the grandstanding.
I almost want to see them try though, just to get smacked down in court.
As though having the rules applied to them won’t reenforce their victim complex.
If they lose - even thanks to a GOP judge (a wild concept) it’ll be because of the elites… You know - the Jews.
They’re somehow both moronic and evil.
Fully expected, and if smacked down, thoroughly entertaining.
Is that some of that librul virtue signalling I hear so much about?
Anytime Trump is held slightly accountable, You can count on Republicans to threaten some type of payback.
It’s basically Animal Farm.
“We believe in democracy for all… but some are more democratic than others”
“We believe in free speech… but some speech is more free than others.”
Animal Farm is one of their guidebooks. Unsurprising since they’re a bunch of swine.
The Republicans are using a book based on communism as their guidebook?
Animal Farm is about totalitarianism.
Well yes because that means they will be accountable too. And they don’t wanna take personal responsibility over anything.
Responsibility would mean that they acknowledge being dumbasses in an uniroinic sense
Honestly at this point someone just needs to end Trump for the sanity of us all. There stupid fucks won’t get over his dick in their ass otherwise.
I feel like Trump’s ideology has taken over so much of right-wingers even he is out of the way, it will continue.
Straight out of the Russian playbook. And for the same reason we can’t let Putin win, these people can’t be allowed to win.
On fucking twatter
Waaaahhhh my candidate got kicked off so I’m going to retaliate and try to kick the other guy off. Good luck at the Supreme Court.
With how stacked the Court is for righties, I wouldn’t be surprised.
It’s literally all the GOP really has been trying to accomplish since Nixon. They did it to our guy so we have to get them back somehow.
The reason the government is called a republic is because it follows laws and established proceedures.
Now Team Trump is advocating pure mob rule.
And people think its cool.
They’re not actually advocating for mob rule, mob rule is only acceptable if it’s the mob rule that accomplishes what they want.
Mobs are usually told what to want.
📢 “and when do they want it?!?!”
They’ll sacrifice their lives for a person who is demonstrably the actual biggest loser in history, and he just gets more loser-y, folks, okay… If any of you are starting to have your memories fade, here’s a quick refresher to read this morning and then copy and send to your aunt karen in Missouri.
- 0 re-elections won
- 1 term president
- 2 times impeached
- 3 marriages
- 4 inch lifts in his shoes
- 5 kids, from 3 different mothers
- 6 bankruptcies
- 7 US Capitol police suing him for Jan 6 terrorist insurrection and murder of police
- 8 trillion + dollars added to the US debt in a single term
- 9 trump lawyers sanctioned by federal judge for lying in frivolous election fraud lawsuits and ordered to pay defendant’s legal fees
- 10 years that trump paid $0 in income taxes between 2000 and 2015. ($0 to cops, teachers, roads, prisons, disaster relief, etc)
- 11 trump associates charged with serious crimes over the past 5 years
- 12 million votes (the big lie) - trump claims he won the 2020 election by 12 million votes when in reality, he lost by about 7 million votes.
- 13 of August, 2021 - one of multiple days that trump was supposed to magically become president again according to Qanon and a crack addicted pillow salesman (the two most respected information sources in the gop)
- 14 year old girl in a youth choir that trump approached in 1992 to say, “Wow! Just think - in a couple years I’ll be dating you.”
- 15 originally confirmed cases of COVID in the US trump said would soon be, “down to close to zero.” followed by, “like a miracle, it will disappear.” - over 1,000,000 Americans have since died of COVID and it continues to kill 4 years later.
- 16 years old - age of daughter ivanka when she hosted “miss teen” pageant and, according to long time trump associate Noel Casler, “trump called her over in the middle of a rehearsal and had her give him a lap dance while he leered at the crew.”
- 17 known trump and russia investigations from local, state and federal prosecutors
- 18 gop senators that ignored trump threats / warnings and supported Biden admin’s infrastructure bill.
- 19 as in COVID19 - trump was verified as the single largest source of disinformation on the virus, with a Cornell study claiming that 38% of the “misinformation conversation” originated with trump
- 20 the day in January, 2021, when Biden was sworn in despite trump inciting a violent insurrection to stop election verification at the US Capitol.
- 21 gun salute that trump ordered for himself when he left office after a humiliating defeat, even though he never served in the military, famously called military members “losers” and “suckers” and actively avoided the draft with a cowardly “bone spurs” excuse.
- 22 date in August, 2021, when Alabama hate rally crowd booed trump for finally saying people should get vaccinated, only after 700,000 Americans have died due mostly to his failure as president
- 23 as in wrestlemania 23 in 2007 where trump, a cartoon level failure with no other prospects, participated in a fake bet that a proxy wrestler would win a fake fight on his behalf or he would shave his wig and hair plugs off.
- 24 day in August, 2021, when trump actually filed a lawsuit in Florida court against YouTube, a private company, demanding that they reinstate his YouTube channel like a desperate, irrelevant embarrassment with no platforms left to abuse.
- 25 plus credible sexual assault allegations against trump, spanning decades and with accusers starting as young as 13 years old at time of assault.
Secretaries of State will step in & ensure the new legal standard for @realDonaldTrump applies equally to @JoeBiden!"
It does. The legal standard does apply equally to everyone. And in fact the same standard has applied for 155 years.
Doublespeak. Republicans actively work to twist the meaning of words to their base to fit their agenda, so that the other side playing by the rules and being fair looks like political cheating. That way Republicans can engage in political cheating themselves and claim self defense.
In today’s flavor, “legal standard” means “the ability to make us lose” so they want to apply their own “legal standard” to democrats.
It sounds dumb to anyone paying attention, but their voters will eat this up.
>The legal standard does apply equally to everyone. And in fact the same standard has applied for 155 years.
under the law, in it’s fairness, it is just as illegal for the billionaire to sleep under a bridge as it is for the homeless
fuck laws
also, fuck politicians.
Didn’t know children could be Secretary of State. Missouri has low standards.
Missouri has low standards.
They always did. It’s the Florida of the Midwest.
Don’t you dare say that. Then Wisconsin will start feeling like they have to become the Alabama of the Midwest and everything will go to hell.
All that comes to mind when I see this guy’s face is:
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Every so often Missouri does the right thing, like elect a dead guy
I mean… America has low standards, Missouri is just a symptom of the disease.
The DOJ should investigate this guy for supporting insurrection, too.
Kindergarten recess is more mature than US politics.
It’s intentional. Jerry Springer Goes To Congress.
I assume you know he was a politician as well?
Yes.
It’s not new. It already applies equally. Biden wasn’t part of an insurrection.
Neat, I didn’t know Biden also engaged in insurrection. This guy seems very wise!
You don’t, but they are certain of it. It’s clearly been an insurrection all these years, since when the democrats colluded with the lizard people to administer the vaccine and steal the elections. It’s obvious if you think about it.
He should be wise. 44 years old and his entire career has been political appointments to cosplay as a lawyer.
Insurrection doesn’t seem to be very strongly defined.
Maybe simply running against an incumbent president is insurrectionalist.
That’s like if you assaulted someone, and then claiming you didn’t assault them because you think assault isn’t strongly defined.
It’s just a very stupid and slimy way of saying you think laws shouldn’t apply to you.
No, assault is strongly defined with a large amount of case law to back it up. It is also obvious who committed it.
Violent storming of the Capitol is insurrectionalist and obvious (like assault)
Incitement to insurrection is lacking in case law, and open to interpretation.
I don’t know why you think this law is applicable to me personally.
Violent storming of the Capitol is insurrectionalist and obvious (like assault)
That was not your original statement but it’s a lot more correct now, and if we can agree that an obvious insurrection is an insurrection, that’s a very good start.
We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore
I don’t see any honest case to be made that this isn’t incitement of insurrection.
Additionally, the 14th Amendment does not require you to prove it was an incitement, it’s enough to provide aid or comfort to the insurrectionists. Of which there are numerous examples, including Trump repeatedly offering to pardon the insurrectionists.
The current SCOTUS claims to be using the “common meaning of words” as their interpretation mechanism for the Constitution.
Assuming they have any bit of consistency whatsoever, the common meaning of words gives at least prima facie argument against Trump being able to run with zero argument against Biden being able to run.
And lucky us, the current SCOTUS has not really shown loyalty to Trump as a person. Here’s hoping that sticks around.
the current SCOTUS has not really shown loyalty to Trump as a person
I’m more worried about future legitimate candidates being excluded. I’m not defending Trump in particular.
You should actually be more worried that violent insurrection becomes the norm.
Unfortunately, Republicans don’t need Democrats to invent ways for them to be fascist, they’re quite capable of finding opportunities on their own
You mean to tell me John Ashcroft’s son is a bit of a douche, too?!?
Why are you being so nice to Jay Ashcroft by calling him a bit of a douche?
My bad. Full douche. Just like his daddy. Feel free to come up with a more descriptive term if you’re feeling creative, too!
A douche bag full of Trumps excrement.
Trump can do no wrong. Therefore, any action taken against him must be unjustified. So it can only ever be political, and therefore, it’s only fair that we do the same to Biden.
The best part is, they recognize that this is terrible for democracy, that this being normalized would be a disaster, and then say they are going to do it anyway. They are admitting that rather than accept the outcome of the legal process for settling these kinds of situations, and respecting the rule of law, they would rather damage our society to get their victory by any means necessary.
Which is pretty much how we got here in the first place, when Trump couldn’t accept an election or dozens of court cases all telling him he lost.
TL;DR: they’re fascist traitors committing sedition and need to be treated as such.
The fact that democrats don’t treat them as such shows that they’re complicit in the march to fascism.
