• queermunist she/her
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    By this definition, all foreign students are guilty of espionage if they plan to take what they learned back to their home countries.

    • @hglman
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      75 months ago

      This assumes the knowledge is owned by the country or anyone.

      • queermunist she/her
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        105 months ago

        I’m imagining a cyberpunk future where students have to pay a life-long lease for learning privately owned intellectual property, and if they don’t pay the repo men come to take their brains.

        • @hglman
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          45 months ago

          Nightmare and exactly what the above comment is asking for.

  • Sentient Loom
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    I don’t think “an education” counts as espionage. That’s crazy.

    • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
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      It is if you’re gonna help a competitor make money! Now sign this non-compete clause so that you can’t work for any other fast food sandwich company country’s numerous fields of research should you ever move from this college town business where you actually pay money from your own pocket to act as an employee.

  • @mlg@lemmy.world
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    145 months ago

    iirc, in the USA the only thing they ban is nuclear studies for students who are from countries that are nuclear powers.

    Kinda dumb to complain about biomedical education as espionage.

  • @Omega_Haxors
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    Pay attention, this is the kind of mask-off fascism that Canada is built upon. The only reason they have border control is because it was implemented to stop jewish people from escaping the nazis, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg of the fascist shit the country’s done, and still does. Cops still take random indigenous people off the streets and flat out murder them. That’s still happening and defended to this day.

    • sparky@lemmy.federate.cc
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      This is a bad take. Canada is a country with a strong democratic tradition. Comparing them by reduction to Hitler and the Nazis precludes any constructive discussion about their actual failings. It is simply not the case that a country who sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives to stop the Nazis is “built upon fascism”. Starting your comment this way immediately disqualifies any good faith discussion about their poor history of First Nations policies.

      • @knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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        The phrase “final solution” may stem from the first independent Canadian administration. The Canadian PM in the 1930s thought Hitler was a pretty cool guy doing good things and went to visit Germany in 1937 to meet Hitler. After the war, Nazis and collaborators were let into Canada in droves. The very politically powerful Ukranian diaspora lobby descends from some of these people, many of whom couldn’t provide papers to immigrate but could show their Nazi tattoos to prove they would be of help against the spectre of communism.

        The RCMP, the Canadian federal police, were founded to oppress Indigenous people.

        Indigenous people on reserves live like people in the poorest developing countries: lack of clean water, little heat, poor healthcare, no agency. When they do take action the RCMP shows up with heavy weapons go make them stop, or allows things like the Highway of Tears to keep happening.

        That’s just the tip of the iceberg, and doesn’t go into the material reasons for why Canada is indeed fascist.

        Canada has a liberal democratic political system, that’s true, but that has no bearing on what the primary ideology is of the ruling class and their representatives in parliament.

        It’s also not true that the British commonwealth, Canada included, fought WWII to stop the Nazis because of their crimes against humanity. Britain fought against the Nazis because British capitalists needed the resources and capital control just as much as German capitalists did, and if they didn’t fight their empire and profit streams would have been taken away from them.

        I’ll remind you that Germany was a democracy in the early 1930s as well, but that didn’t prevent the German industrial and financial capitalists from using their power over the country to get the NSDAP into a very profitable position.

      • @Omega_Haxors
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        Really hitting us with the “but they fought the nazis” revisionism, topped up with downplaying the indigenous genocide. Why do cc instances suck so bad? EDIT: Ah you’re german, that explains the huge blind spot. Either way, don’t want to engage with you. Bye bye.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    95 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The student, Yuekang Li, proposed to study under a leading researcher at the University of Waterloo and take what he learns back to China to improve its public-health system.

    But Federal Court Chief Justice Paul Crampton said Mr. Li’s plan fits the definition of “non-traditional” espionage – even without evidence he ever engaged in or had been trained in spying, or that his research has military uses.

    Leah West, a national-security specialist at Carleton University, said that while the ruling accurately summarized Chinese spying methods, it “didn’t say why China advancing its biomedical research was contrary to Canadian interests.” She added: “The fact that it’s a country we compete with – is that sufficient, especially when you’re talking about public health?”

    Wesley Wark, a leading specialist in national-security law, described the ruling as an important precedent in the area of research security and said it sends a message to Canada’s universities to reconsider their admission practices.

    A Canadian government visa officer had rejected Mr. Li as inadmissible on the grounds of espionage, saying that China could target or coerce him to provide information contrary to Canada’s interests.

    One such report, from a U.S. government body, said China relies heavily on science and technology students to advance the goals of the Chinese Communist Party, and benefit the military and commercial sectors.


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