Also right wing nuts killing human rights wherever they can, especially on domestic soil.
When the world mentions the word ‘Democracy’ … everyone thinks of ‘Democracy’
When the US mentions the word ‘Democracy’ … it means invasion, war, bombs and death
In America, the word ‘democracy’ has lost all meaning
Democracy in America actually does have consistent meaning. It’s just that it isn’t what people think it is. When america says ‘democracy’ what they mean is liberalisation of trade and markets for American capital interests. Often with disastrous effects for the local population and their economy. The word freedom also has a similar meaning. The word freedoms is more accurately considered a contraction of the phrase ‘freedom for american capital flows’.
Looking at the Official Report On the Iraq War published in the UK some years ago, American “bringing of democracy” there was quite literally the war crime of Pillage.
Basically the local administration installed by the Cohalition in Iraq was forced to give almost all oil exploitation contracts to British and American companies, mainly the latter.
Who knows just how rigged the voting system is over there to produce an image of “Democracy” whilst making sure real power always goes to those who favour American interests or are easy to corrupt to do so.
Gotta love “The Democratic Republic of Korea”
You can’t trust the tankies with the word, either.
Imposing Democracy on others does not seem to work, or requires a skill set rarely developed.
It worked in Japan and Germany. Depends a lot on the context. Still too risky to consider it a good default strategy.
Iraq is definitely better off than they were under Saddam, if you want a more recent example.
All it cost was untold suffering and a million dead Iraqis to overthrow the dictator America installed in the first place.
Point of Clarification. Are you calling Ghazi Mashal Ajil al-Yawer a dictator, or referring to an earlier point in time?
a million dead Iraqis
Source?
I googled it, results vary from 250k to 500k, so not quite a million but still, that’s a lot of deaths. Either way, the US government’s real reason for that war was not to save the country from dictatorship …
I come from a country, Portugal, were the people conquered Democracy from the Fascists by force (though it was mainly a peaceful affair).
In next door Spain some years later the Fascists passed some laws to give themselves immunity and keep the wealth they stole from the rest and then left power, which is how they became a Democracy.
Portugal has none of the problems of regionalist breakaway movements that Spain has, the Far Right is more recent smaller and way milder than in Spain (were even the mainstream Rightwing-party has always been far more to the Right than the equivalent one in Portugal).
(Portugal is a far … far, far … from perfect country, but at least in this things seem to have been done right)
Whilst indeed it’s anecdotal, this and what I’ve seen over the years when it comes to foreign interventions to “bring democracy”, leads me to believe that Democracy, to be stable, has to be won, not “gifted” by a dictatorship (and even a foreign invader which is a democratic country is de facto a dictatorship for the locals of the occcupied country as they don’t get to vote in that country’s elections and are quite literally being governed by dictat).
I feel like they imposed “democracy” in a way that allowed them to use that country as a puppet for material and strategic gain. Real lasting change has to be from the bottom up.
My feed shows that @Stamets is awake.
Barely
Huh? Am I OOTL here?
Stamets posts a lot of good memes, that’s all.
Oh, okay. Thanks!
USA spreading freedom and democracy by couping various democratic countries and replacing the democratically elected leaders with fascists and warlords
the irony of a moderator violating their own rules
Idk, I think this meme is acceptable under the premise that clearly evident truth with mountains of proof can’t possibly be a political wedge issue, right?
And that second image is also valid within US borders.
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And a Starbucks! Your welcome
My welcome what?
Dreams of Dresden
Some of the most successful fascist propaganda ever that.
“WOLLT IHR DEN TOTALEN KRIEG? … Hey, not like that! Not fair!”
Most freedom and democracy spreads via soft power. Nothing sells liberalism the way investment does.
Think of Bananas!
I spent way too long trying to figure out what country Bananas is. Maybe it’s the capital B, or maybe Bananas just sounds like a nation to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
USA! USA! USA!
Like that one song from that movie…
Didn’t the US stop doing this 20 years ago?
Besides, it’s still better than Iran, and Russia. Fewer dead. Less economic strife, much much less injustice.
