How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

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    8 months ago

    Could you explain “filesystem-unveiled”?

    Means its filesystem access is restricted.

    For example, chromium on OpenBSD use the unveil(2) system call to restrict itself to /tmp and $HOME/Downloads .

    Many popular flatpak applications have filesystem=host. This is equal to restrict all filesystem access and then unveil the whole filesystem.

    Apps are not updated to support portals for “compatibility” or just lack of maintenance. Flatpak needs to follow their approach if they want to have many apps being supported.

    Desktop Linux doesnt have the marketshare to dictate that all apps need to adopt portals. In the meantime, flathub.org has a rating system and verified checks, this is simply not well shown in KDE Discover and not sure about GNOME software.

    If they can’t even enforce portals, flatpak is a new level of complexity.

    So I said it is trash.

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      8 months ago

      Good that Chromium does that, but this means if it doesnt use portals many things will be broken.

      The host access is not actually everything

      These directories are blacklisted: /lib, /lib32, /lib64, /bin, /sbin, /usr, /boot, /root, /tmp, /etc, /app, /run, /proc, /sys, /dev, /var

      Exceptions from the blacklist: /run/media These directories are mounted under /var/run/host: /etc, /usr

      Portals need a change in the app code that is not huge but differs from other packaging formats on any distro and OS. So it sucks that its so slow but that has a reason.

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        8 months ago

        The host access is not actually everything

        Not as restrictive as chromium’s unveil.

        For home it even restrict to the downloads folder, not accessing the whole home directory.

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          8 months ago

          Yes that only works for browsers and would completely break image viewers, document editors etc