I know that many reject Vivaldi, because he is not entirely FOSS and only listed as Free-Proprietary, although I think that it is not at all fair to compare it for this with others in this category. The small part, about 5% of the code is obfuscated for good reasons. However, it does not prevent the user from modifying it to their liking and it is even encouraged by Vivaldi, but it does prevent large companies (Google) from making a fork of Vivaldi and thereby destroying this still small cooperative.

  • @ZerushOP
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    Vivaldi let in the choice of the user how much privacy like to have. FF and Mozilla forks not. As I say before, only entering in Mozilla.org, they put you a tracker from Alphabet Inc Privacy? What do you think how many lines of the script of FF or forks are pointing to Google? Their code also is financed by Google, without a choice from the user like in Vivaldi. For this I prefer an CE Browser, privacy norms in the US don’t exists. FOSS isn’t a sinonym of privacy, nor security. Search a degoogled Geck Engine, and Gecko also is at the end of possibilities and also FF in the future go to Blink, this is a fact.

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      Vivaldi let in the choice of the user how much privacy like to have

      And Firefox doesn’t? What is the difference? What is it about privacy that Vivaldi “gives you an option for” and Firefox doesn’t?

      Privacy? What do you think how many lines of the script of FF or forks are pointing to Google?

      With Firefox I can check. With Vivaldi I can’t check. Vivaldi may have thousands of lines pointing to Google for all we know (though I’m sure that’s not true, it’s an example).

      Their code also is financed by Google,

      Google pays Mozilla to keep them as the default search engine. Don’t make it sound like Google controls everything that goes in the source code of Firefox. Also even if they did, as I said before, Firefox is open source, so I can check.

      Search a degoogled Geck Engine, and Gecko also is at the end of possibilities and also FF in the future go to Blink, this is a fact.

      I don’t understand what this sentence means nor why it is a “fact”.


      You’re really missing my point here on purpose just to defend Vivaldi. If it’s so good, so much better than Firefox, so much more private, with 0 references to Google in the code, then why isn’t it FOSS so I can see for myself? You haven’t given me a single reason for why it shouldn’t be FOSS. Repeating “Vivaldi better than Firefox” doesn’t answer my question.