• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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    Do elaborate on what it is you’re confused by. Russian strategy has been destruction of Ukrainian army through attrition. Being a much bigger country with a big industrial base, this is the most sensible strategy for Russia.

    Russia spent around 9 months making sophisticated layered defences over the past year while massively expanding the army. Ukraine was then forced to use human wave tactics to attack these defences by their western partners to try and show visible territory gains for continued support. This offensive failed miserably resulting in the loss of large portions of the equipment the west managed to cobble together, as well as trained and experienced soldiers. Russia actually ended up gaining more ground during this offensive than Ukraine did.

    Now, Ukraine is out of weapons and manpower, and Russia is starting an offensive of their own having recruited over 300k new troops who have been trained and equipped during this time.

    On the other hand, western powers are now admitting that they’re not able to keep up with the rate of use ammunition, and Ukraine is now actively drafting women in to the military. Furthermore, many western economies are going into a recession, while Russian economy is showing growth and increase in military production.

    On top of all that, we’re now seeing the war in Palestine unfold which necessarily means that Ukraine will get even less support from the west.

    Seems to me that this is precisely what U.S. Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin predicted would happen in his article that’s linked above.

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      8 months ago

      Russian strategy has been destruction of Ukrainian army through attrition.

      Their strategy was a lightning fast toppling of the government within a week with little to no resistance, such as they saw in Crimea.

      Russia is also facing dire manpower issues. With too much drafting from Moscow, Putin’s power is in danger. In fact, Ukraine is betting on these manpower shortages to attrit down to the point where the line becomes untenable. See here: https://youtu.be/lebWSl49R0c https://youtu.be/CqmQPev1Gvg

      Gasa is certainly an issue, but with higher artillery production, linked bills, and diverted media attention, it has upsides for Ukraine too. https://youtu.be/tg7aw3T3nzg

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        Their strategy was a lightning fast toppling of the government within a week with little to no resistance, such as they saw in Crimea.

        Nowhere has Russia said anything of the sort, but you must know something nobody else does apparently. Russia certainly did get Ukraine to negotiate early on, but the west forced Ukraine to break off these negotiations bringing us to where we are today.

        Russia is also facing dire manpower issues.

        It’s absolutely incredible that people still believe this stuff after a year and a half of it being proven wrong. You must be one of those geniuses who thinks China’s about to collapse as well.

        Gasa is certainly an issue, but with higher artillery production, linked bills, and diverted media attention, it has upsides for Ukraine too.

        It’s incredible what people end up believing when they just guzzle propaganda on youtube.

        In any case, there’s absolutely no point arguing with you since it’s pretty clear that you live in a fantasy world. By next year even people such as yourself will have to start grappling with what’s happening in the real world though.

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          Russia said anything of the sort

          You take their words at face value? It’s from their actions and game theory of the situation. https://youtu.be/pBwT-5z9R5A

          Did you watch the vid?

          Did you watch the vid? It’s a game theory and international relations teacher talking about their area of expertise. I’m guessing anything that disagrees with Russia though is propaganda for you.

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            You take their words at face value? It’s from their actions and game theory of the situation.

            They’ve stated their objectives pretty clearly. Why would I take words of some random youtube troll over the official position?

            It’s a game theory and international relations teacher talking about their area of expertise. I’m guessing anything that disagrees with Russia though is propaganda for you.

            The narrative this game theory and international relations teacher is feeding you is at odds with the reality we observe. The fact is that plenty of western experts such as Mearsheimer clearly explain what’s happening, and their claims have actually been supported by what’s observed https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine

            Here’s how things are actually going with now as reported by mainstream Spanish media https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-10-29/russia-halts-ukrainian-offensive-and-goes-on-the-attack.html

            This is the real world as opposed to deranged fantasy wonderland you inhabit listening to your game theory and international relations teacher.

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                  Indeed. Whether the attack is a good thing or a bad thing depends on the casualty and material ratio vs the objectives taken. Which a game theory approach is much better for analyzing than just saying that Russia or Ukraine is gaining ground.

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                    I never made the argument about gaining ground anywhere. What I said was that Russia’s strategy is to grind down Ukrainian army through attrition. The game theory approach for analyzing this needs to account for the fact that Russia has a vastly larger population and massive industrial capacity that Russia inherited from USSR that the west is admitting is not able to match right now.

                    Also, every credible source such as BBC and Mediazona show that Russian casualties peaked before Ukrainian offensive started and have been falling since. On the other hand, Ukrainian casualties have been catastrophic even by western admissions.

                    Again, there is no point continuing this since clearly we aren’t going to convince one another of anything. We will simply see who is right when the war ends.

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      Russia has more manpower but at the expense of pulling out troops from another theatre, which in turn would diminish Russian influence there, that’s already the case with Central Asia and Armenia and Azerbaijan. Russian businesses is already short-staffed. Even if Russian wins, it is will be a Pyrrhic victory. Future generations of Russians will pay for the financial and human costs. Russia could even be beholden to China, who is keeping Kremlin afloat right now.

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        That’s a whole lot of copium there, Meanwhile, Russia becoming beholden to China could only be a good thing.

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          Russian propagandists have said so many things before that turned out to be the opposite. We will conquer Ukraine in three days, Russia will win, we have more manpower blah blah. One year and a half later? Who made more progress since the Russians were pushed back? I guess the true fascists are the ones who invaded and killed Ukrainians along the way.

          China could only be a good thing.

          At least you and I both agree Putin needs to be toppled.

          But is this tacit admission of Russia is going to lose anyhow?

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            The only people who said that Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine in three days are western propagandists. There isn’t single statement from Russia saying anything remotely like that.

            Who made more progress since the Russians were pushed back?

            Russia literally gained more territory during Ukraine’s offensive than Ukraine did.

            At least you and I both agree Putin needs to be toppled.

            Who do you think would replace Putin exactly. Putin is a moderate in Russia. You think Medvedev or Karyrov are gonna be more restrained? You’re just utterly clueless.

            But is this tacit admission of Russia is going to lose anyhow?

            Please don’t put words in my mouth. Only an utter imbecile would look at what’s happening and think that Russia is going to lose.