My university Linux cluster was my first introduction to Linux in general, and they ran MATE of all things.
A few years later, when I decided I was done with Window’s bullshit and wanted to jump my daily driver to Linux, I installed Ubuntu MATE so I’d have the best familiarity edge I could to minimize friction.
MATE is alright. Despite being rather barebones and dated (being a life support fork of GNOME 2, I understand that is indeed kind of the point), it served me well for about 5 years.
I got a real urge to switch, though, due to just how little support or documentation there is for anything in MATE. I was also getting fed up with Ubuntu’s Snap crap as well. So I decided to dump both for something else.
I wanted to stay on Debian’s architecture for now, but no longer had need for Ubuntu’s handholding, so raw Debian it was. As for the DE, I personally like the rich, full-fat ones more than the lean ones, and I wanted something modern, popular, and with highly proliferous support resources. That basically meant GNOME 3 or KDE Plasma. And I guess maybe Cinnamon, but I always see it marketed as the “newly ex-Windows user training wheels” DE, and that isn’t my need.
GNOME 3 strikes me as the “MacOS” of Linux DEs. It wants to swim against the current to introduce its own paradigm. Everything designed to work in its ecosystem is buttery smooth and sexy, yes, but since it’s also a counterparadigm, that tends to relegate you to the pack-in software and a handful of big vendors. Most other software has to rely on clumsy shims to fit in. I’m not about it, tbh. I’m sure it’s fine, I just don’t think higher highs are worth the lower lows, and I generally wasn’t in the mood for a drastic paradigm shift.
So, KDE Plasma for me. It was unfortunate I made the leap just as they decided, “Wayland is stable and supported enough for everyone now!” (it isn’t, lol), so it’s a bit rockier than I was hoping, but whatever. Stability and support can only improve with time. And I expect faster adoption of Wayland than I do the GNOME 3 paradigm since Wayland is currently the only ship of its kind in the water that isn’t sinking.
Aaaaall that said, KDE treats me pretty well, minus the Wayland issues. Upgrading to it from MATE was like trading up from a cheap, dingy hostel to a clean 4-star hotel. Should’ve leapt years ago.
My university Linux cluster was my first introduction to Linux in general, and they ran MATE of all things.
A few years later, when I decided I was done with Window’s bullshit and wanted to jump my daily driver to Linux, I installed Ubuntu MATE so I’d have the best familiarity edge I could to minimize friction.
MATE is alright. Despite being rather barebones and dated (being a life support fork of GNOME 2, I understand that is indeed kind of the point), it served me well for about 5 years.
I got a real urge to switch, though, due to just how little support or documentation there is for anything in MATE. I was also getting fed up with Ubuntu’s Snap crap as well. So I decided to dump both for something else.
I wanted to stay on Debian’s architecture for now, but no longer had need for Ubuntu’s handholding, so raw Debian it was. As for the DE, I personally like the rich, full-fat ones more than the lean ones, and I wanted something modern, popular, and with highly proliferous support resources. That basically meant GNOME 3 or KDE Plasma. And I guess maybe Cinnamon, but I always see it marketed as the “newly ex-Windows user training wheels” DE, and that isn’t my need.
GNOME 3 strikes me as the “MacOS” of Linux DEs. It wants to swim against the current to introduce its own paradigm. Everything designed to work in its ecosystem is buttery smooth and sexy, yes, but since it’s also a counterparadigm, that tends to relegate you to the pack-in software and a handful of big vendors. Most other software has to rely on clumsy shims to fit in. I’m not about it, tbh. I’m sure it’s fine, I just don’t think higher highs are worth the lower lows, and I generally wasn’t in the mood for a drastic paradigm shift.
So, KDE Plasma for me. It was unfortunate I made the leap just as they decided, “Wayland is stable and supported enough for everyone now!” (it isn’t, lol), so it’s a bit rockier than I was hoping, but whatever. Stability and support can only improve with time. And I expect faster adoption of Wayland than I do the GNOME 3 paradigm since Wayland is currently the only ship of its kind in the water that isn’t sinking.
Aaaaall that said, KDE treats me pretty well, minus the Wayland issues. Upgrading to it from MATE was like trading up from a cheap, dingy hostel to a clean 4-star hotel. Should’ve leapt years ago.
Thank you for that very detailed response!