“He could have done that, but it didn’t happen. Yes, the question probably wasn’t pressing at the time because there was no full-scale invasion.

“But our territories were occupied.”

of course, we all know what Trump did do: he tried to extort Zalenskyy for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding relief funding that the US Congress had already authorized to send to Ukraine. He was even impeached over it.

  • DarraignTheSane
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    Inb4 the lemmygrad.ml pro-Putin brigade that will tell everyone how Ukraine should roll over and die and the U.S. is nothing but a warmonger.

    I’m sure Trump will deliver an end to the war in Ukraine juuust as soon as he comes through with Infrastructure Week.

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      Is crazy. Putin’s behavior is not marxist or communist. He’s a mob boss. A fascist dictator. He is heavy into nationalism and racism to maintain his power.

      I guess Trump really doesn’t want Putin to release that tape of him getting pissed on by a stripper.

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        I never did buy the whole pee tape thing. Trump shrugged off publicly saying how he sexually abused women just before getting elected president. There’s no level of shame that can affect someone with no conscience.

        To me it’s much simpler - the Russians own his ass, literally. They bailed him out when he was going bankrupt in the '80s, and he’s been beholden to them ever since.

        https://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

            • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
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              Lmao i’m in your wall and closet, and fridge, and don’t you dare to open the fishcan.

        • Whiskey PickleOP
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          wow, i’d actually forgotten about the pee tape thing since it happened 400 years ago(in pandemic years, lol). I’m not sure that I ever believed it for any other reason than simply because it sounded like some petty bullshit he would do-- hire hookers to pee on him in a bed once used by Obama. Or, not even on him, but just on the empty bed himself while he watched because he is just so very petty. And the Russians would never bother with such a tape because it would have become worthless the instant the world knew that neither would Trump be ashamed of such a tape becoming public nor would the world be shocked by it. Hardly “kompromat” when everyone already knows what a scumbag the guy is.

          so, is the tape real? maybe, but I just don’t care.

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        Putin’s behavior [isn’t] marxist or communist. He’s a mob boss. A fascist dictator. He is heavy into nationalism and racism to maintain his power.

        Precisely. It makes no sense at all really

        • @weebs
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          People give me shit on this but the more I look at their behavior over the decades, I have trouble recognizing them as anything but reactionary elements of a revolution at best and genuine far right ideology at worst. They constantly engage in idolization, power worship, subjugation of outside groups for the in-group, racism, nationalism, and all that other fun stuff. They can wave flags around as much as they like but aesthetics are just that, aesthetics

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            I very much agree with you. “Tankie” is a slur for a reason; they’re not rational radicals, they’re fascist-adjacent authoritarians who prefer a different aesthetic

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        Removed by mod

      • @argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
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        Putin’s behavior is not marxist or communist. He’s a mob boss. A fascist dictator.

        This. I can’t fathom why a community of self-described Marxists would have any love for the man. Marxism is about empowering the working class. The only person Putin empowers is himself.

      • @MetalHead77
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        LOL. That whole “pissed on by a stripper” thing turned out to be a total fabrication just like the Russia collusion accusations were.

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      well, they sound awful, like a pack of bullies.

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          ew-- i saw “lemmygrad” and, i suppose incorrectly, assumed it was a lemmy instance for grad students. guess not

          lemmygrad -> leningrad. now I get it. 🫤

            • Whiskey PickleOP
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              reminds me of people who claim to be Christians yet do nothing close to following the teachings of Christ.

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                Well it’s kind of hand-in-hand these days, what with all the christo-fascism and all.

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                  WWJD?

                  i’ll tell you what he’d do: he’d fashion the biggest whip the world has ever seen and whip the everliving daylights out of a lot of very bad people. than he’d make them pay their taxes, lol!

                  Those people a very lucky he’s just a myth.

                  • DarraignTheSane
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                    The silver lining is that when someone tells me they’re religious, I know to be wary of them. Sure they could possibly be fine people, but they could also want their god to torture you for all eternity after you die just for not conforming to their world view. World lot those types, better to steer clear of them I say.