• Manmoth
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      2 years ago

      All of human history tells us that human beings are self serving creatures. There is no reason for a society with every possible advantage to arbitrarily relenquish its superiority for ‘muh communism’. It’s a pipe dream.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        2 years ago

        People being selfish simply means we need to design systems where acting in your own interest aligns with the common interest. Communism accomplishes this far better than any other system that’s been tried. No system will ever be perfect, but it’s clear that some systems achieve better results than others.

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          2 years ago

          Communism’s only lasting acheivement is causing 70 million of it’s own people to starve to death in the 20th century due to malice and incompetence. Strategic positions are filled to solidify power not meritocratically. It incentivizes people with pervasive fear. Fear of sureveillance and secret police. Fear of going to the gulag, being shot in the street or being sent to the frontlines of a war without a weapon. God help you if there is a color revolution and you happen to wear glasses. You are a slave and there is no way out. You have nothing to call your own, no aspirations just hopelessness. Communism has been tried. It doesn’t work.

          In a world where no system is perfect saying that Communism is the least maligned is laughable. We have over a 100 years of data at this point. Data that we can access and process due to the information technology revolution driven almost entirely by the flawed but extremely innovative west.

          Allowing people to reap the fruits of their own labor is aligned with the common interest because it gives people some sense of self sovereignty which, in the end, is what everyone wants. You can invest your wealth in initiatives you find valuable and grow your wealth while fueling innovation. Capitalism in and of itself isn’t some evil invention. Subversion and degeneration of culture are the culprits. Communism has the same issue but there is no hedge against it because the people don’t really have any power.

          Bet on greed.