• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      01 year ago

      I wonder why they’re becoming popular. The party’s 2019 program introducrd the following points:

      • Free universal health care.
      • Free education including higher education.
      • Increasing the size and scope of disability benefits, maternity benefits and retirement pensions.
      • The creation of modernised collective farms to work alongside the private sector.
      • Active state intervention in the spheres of infrastructure, transport, energy, communications, housing, pharmaceuticals, etc.
      • The nationalization of foreign-owned energy companies.
      • A commitment to law and order including both reinstating the death penalty for particularly dangerous criminals and addressing the underlying socioeconomic issues that may cause crime.
      • A commitment to Moldovan independence and military neutrality.
      • @pingveno
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        21 year ago

        Except they’re not popular, at least if their electoral showing means anything. They’re just noisy.

          • @pingveno
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            21 year ago

            The Șor party got 5.75% of the vote in the last election. The Party of Action and Solidarity, a pro-Europe group, got a majority at 52%. Electoral Bloc of Communists and Socialists nabbed 27%. The rest of the vote was split among a bunch of much smaller parties. So there are the facts, Șor party is not popular.

            Just because you can get a few thousand people together in one spot doesn’t mean they get to dictate policy. Protesting is important, but it should never turn into a minority veto. Otherwise Trump and Bolsonaro would still be presidents, and I shudder to think of that world.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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              01 year ago

              Yeah, Communists got 27% despite rabid anti-communist propaganda that Moldova has been washed in for decades now. And now that it’s becoming clear that neoliberal policies the west champions are an utter failure more and more people are waking up to what’s been done to their country.

              Meanwhile, it’s pretty much guaranteed that Trump or somebody like him will get into power in 2024. Democrats shat the bed with their proxy war, and people are waking up to the domestic economic impact from it now. Anybody who runs on anti war platform in the next election will win by a landslide.

              • @pingveno
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                11 year ago

                Yeah, Communists got 27% despite rabid anti-communist propaganda that Moldova has been washed in for decades now.

                Ah, right. When people agree with me, they are smart and see through the lies. When people disagree with me, they’ve given in to the capitalist propaganda.

                Meanwhile, it’s pretty much guaranteed that Trump or somebody like him will get into power in 2024.

                You’re overestimating Trump’s appeal. He’s a loser, and a sore loser at that. The type of people that Trump appeals to don’t like a loser so much. There are of course no guarantees in elections, but the all important economy is humming along fairly nicely.

                Democrats shat the bed with their proxy war, and people are waking up to the domestic economic impact from it now. Anybody who runs on anti war platform in the next election will win by a landslide.

                You really need to look at polls before you make claims. While support isn’t unanimous, it’s still holding strong a year in. Just because you think it’s a disaster does not make it one.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                  11 year ago

                  Ah, right. When people agree with me, they are smart and see through the lies. When people disagree with me, they’ve given in to the capitalist propaganda.

                  I love how you pretend to be unaware that US literally spends billions on propaganda around the world via shit like NED and USAID. It’s not even hidden. I personally saw this in action when I was growing up in Russia during the Yeltsin years. Either you’re horribly ignorant or just utterly dishonest. Yet, despite all the propaganda these ideas just keep coming back somehow. You’d think if they weren’t actually popular then capitalist pigs wouldn’t have to fight them so hard.

                  You’re overestimating Trump’s appeal. He’s a loser, and a sore loser at that. The type of people that Trump appeals to don’t like a loser so much. There are of course no guarantees in elections, but the all important economy is humming along fairly nicely.

                  You’re underestimating what an utter shit show the democratic party is. And if it won’t be Trump, then it’s going to be somebody like Trump. That’s the future of politics in your shithole country. Better start getting used to it. Meanwhile, the fact that you genuinely believe that US economy is humming along nicely is the height of comedy here.

                  You really need to look at polls before you make claims. While support isn’t unanimous, it’s still holding strong a year in. Just because you think it’s a disaster does not make it one.

                  No, I don’t need to look at polls two years before the election. What I’m going to look at are the declining material conditions and the economic disaster US is in a middle of. All of this will get far worse by 2024, and people will be much more angry than they are today. Even people such as yourself will have to reconcile that somehow.

                  Also, it’s pretty obvious that only 64% of people supporting the war already constitutes collapse in support given that it was nearly universal only a few months ago. As it becomes more and more obvious that there is no easy win, US public will increasingly reject this insanity. If you were historically literate then you’d see the parallels with Vietnam here.

                  • @pingveno
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                    11 year ago

                    Meanwhile, the fact that you genuinely believe that US economy is humming along nicely is the height of comedy here.

                    I’ve been watching it. The inflation worries in general have been dropping. Supply chains kinks are getting smoothed out. Employment figures are holding steady, with good growth. Housing is still overpriced, but people are working on that. There are some other weak spots, but overall things are pretty solid. Do you actually have anything to back up what you say besides being the usual condescending tone?

                    No, I don’t need to look at polls two years before the election.

                    I’m not talking about elections. If you’re making grand proclamations about inevitable collapse in support, you need to have that. You’re just making claims without a speck of evidence. The evidence shows the opposite. There has been no movement in the polls.

                    If you were historically literate then you’d see the parallels with Vietnam here.

                    That’s an atrociously bad comparison. The US and its allies are training and arming Ukraine to fight against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Especially in the opening of the war, we saw war crimes committed by Russian troops against Ukrainian civilians. Russian convicts are used as cannon fodder. If they desert and are traded back, they may find themselves on camera getting a sledgehammer to the head. You are trying to cast the US in the role of the US in this comparison, but instead Russia is the brutal invader.

                    There also is very much a reason to why the US is willing to fund Ukraine’s defense. The United States does not particularly want the China-Taiwan spat to boil over into an actual invasion. There’s more of a chance that that would escalate to US involvement. There’s a hope that if the whole Ukraine invasion blows back in Russia’s face and fails, Xi Jinping will decide that invading Taiwan is too risky. The location of the main TSMC foundries would make it hard for the US to accept a Chinese invasion and annexation of Taiwan. I suspect the beginning of an invasion would trigger a call to from the US president making that clear.