Like, so genders are social construct and different from biological “sex”, but identifying as a different “gender” requires surgery to change your “sex”? Is “gender” just personality? I’m so confused
Edit: also, the idea trans-affirming surgery and hormones is also absolutely horrifying to me for some reason; just, ouch
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/395378
Here is an entire series of discussions on an essay collection about transness and its place in socialist theory and praxis. Linked you’ll find a PDF of the essay collection itself.
There are also plenty of books on the subject of gender, I would recommend starting with Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble and building from there. Asking people to explain their identities in a way that is never required of cis people is exhausting, especially in a society that is often so violently hostile to those identities.
Might also want to reconsider talking about other people’s medical decisions as “horrifying”. That may be your visceral reaction as a cis person, but like with any other medical thing, you keep your personal visceral reactions to yourself. For instance: there’s something rather degrading about you posting a picture of scars from someone else’s skin graft just to be “horrified” about it.
Finally, as a cis person, asking if trans affirming care is something people should “be able” to get is fucking gross. You’re not trans, it isn’t your business what care trans people receive, and it’s truly not even your place to have a “discussion” about it. If you want to understand trans people, fine, but there’s no place for cis people in discussions on when and what care trans people should be able to have. Period.
Again, I’m not hostile, I just struggle to understand this stuff. The notion of gender science is somewhat culturally foreign to me.
Cool, thanks
But are children able to properly consent to these sort of things, even if it is of their own initiative?
You may want to read this comment by comrade @afellowkid@lemmygrad.ml about what can be the options for a transgender teenager, I found it very informative: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/249005
TLDR, they’re not doing surgery on literal children for this, more common is apparently to hold off puberty and let them decide on further options when they’re older. (Disclaimer that I’m summarizing the comment, I’m too old to have any personal experience with this.)
Ah, I see. That’s actually pretty interesting. Would undergoing the opposite sex’s puberty make becoming transgender impossible? If you block puberty and become an adult, would you still be able to undergo it?
1 it wouldn’t make it impossible because you don’t need hrt to be trans and 2 people also undergo it as an adult after they have experienced the affects of the puberty of the sex assigned at birth
Ah