The idea is that this kind of “reporting” has been used by US in the past to start wars, Gulf of Tonkin is a good example. Meanwhile, the history of NATO is full of invading other states. Claiming that this is defensive is at odds with what this alliance actually does.
Rational voices have prevailed this time around, but the fact that US admin leaked this to AP clearly suggests that there are enough insane people in your government who do want to expand this into a direct conflict between NATO and Russia.
NATO’s history is not nearly as full as that article suggests at first glance. I see three distinct conflicts:
Balkans
Afghanistan
Libya
Say what you will about those conflicts, but it’s equal or less than, say, Russia’s history over the same time period.
enough insane people
There are insane people in Russia who want to expand this conflict. It doesn’t mean shit if they don’t have enough people willing to go along with them.
Say what you will about those conflicts, but it’s equal or less than, say, Russia’s history over the same time period.
You forgot a bunch of conflicts NATO has been directly and indirectly involved in. Afghanistan alone eclipses anything Russia has ever done. Libya has literal slave markets now. NATO is also facilitating a genocide in Yemen as we speak. War on terror project, championed by key NATO member which is your country, murdered over 6 million people.
I have to ask, are you genuinely ignorant or are you intentionally spreading misinformation?
There are insane people in Russia who want to expand this conflict. It doesn’t mean shit if they don’t have enough people willing to go along with them.
The more sabre rattling happens the more agency insane people on both sides have. Before the conflict started most Russians weren’t interested in a war, and support was lukewarm. After the west went after all things Russian it galvanized Russian opinion behind the war, and justified to Russians the things Putin has been saying.
Likewise, lots of people in the west think that the only way this war should end is by defeating Russia by any means necessary. As the Ukrainian project continues to collapse there is increasing probability of more desperate actions by NATO powers.
The idea is that this kind of “reporting” has been used by US in the past to start wars, Gulf of Tonkin is a good example. Meanwhile, the history of NATO is full of invading other states. Claiming that this is defensive is at odds with what this alliance actually does.
Rational voices have prevailed this time around, but the fact that US admin leaked this to AP clearly suggests that there are enough insane people in your government who do want to expand this into a direct conflict between NATO and Russia.
NATO’s history is not nearly as full as that article suggests at first glance. I see three distinct conflicts:
Say what you will about those conflicts, but it’s equal or less than, say, Russia’s history over the same time period.
There are insane people in Russia who want to expand this conflict. It doesn’t mean shit if they don’t have enough people willing to go along with them.
You forgot a bunch of conflicts NATO has been directly and indirectly involved in. Afghanistan alone eclipses anything Russia has ever done. Libya has literal slave markets now. NATO is also facilitating a genocide in Yemen as we speak. War on terror project, championed by key NATO member which is your country, murdered over 6 million people.
I have to ask, are you genuinely ignorant or are you intentionally spreading misinformation?
The more sabre rattling happens the more agency insane people on both sides have. Before the conflict started most Russians weren’t interested in a war, and support was lukewarm. After the west went after all things Russian it galvanized Russian opinion behind the war, and justified to Russians the things Putin has been saying.
Likewise, lots of people in the west think that the only way this war should end is by defeating Russia by any means necessary. As the Ukrainian project continues to collapse there is increasing probability of more desperate actions by NATO powers.