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- genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
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- genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/426976
I’m asking in good faith here, not trying to start a fight but if my understanding of the content that person posted is correct (abjectly transphobic) then why was their perma ban changed to a 2 day ban?
Frippa got two days for posting a statue with a dick, this clown posted hateful shit and gets the same punishment?
That doesn’t seem right at all.
If this was an accident fair enough but the mod log doesn’t give us justification for these decisions and it leaves it open to speculation and having their ban changed to 2 days seems sus af.
If this is something to do with lemmy vs lemmygrad then fair enough can that be explained please.
Thank you.
I have known Mlcolo for a few months and when I found out I contacted the admins and asked if they could forgive him, so if someone should be blame it is me. I know what he did was wrong, and it is not something that should be taken lightly.
I met him on Leftypol when I was looking for fellow Marxist comrades from Latin America, he is from Colombia, since then I introduced him to Lemmygrad and I have felt he has grown in his path to radicalization. That being said he comes from a background with Chan culture, plus in Spanish the equivalent to that word he used on the post, “f_____”, is used extremely often in a lot of scenarios (as a reclaimed slur, as a way of saying “dude”, and also as a slur/insult), so I think not understanding the gravity of the situation can be related to a lot of factors. I spoke with him about the issue and he said he was sorry and that he wouldn’t do it again. I think we should forgive some people who come from different backgrounds when they are trying to change they perceive the world, so it is justifiable for me to give a warning instead of a full on prohibiting from interacting with this community which could help him become a better person. Still, if the majority think this is something unforgivable, I think it is fair and the ban should be re-reversed.
I am giving you some context and my personal opinion, excuse me if it is not the best one, and I hope no one here ended up harmed.
How do you explain this then? Is this information false? You can’t tell me that violent transmisogyny and racism doesn’t exist in Colombia and it’s merely a misunderstanding of an E2L speaker.
Extremely disappointed to hear this from you and using his Latin identity to apologize for it. For personal reasons I don’t make public in Lemmygrad and my sexual and gender identity. Can’t even fucking trust communists.
I just found out about that post and I can’t explain it, there’s no justification for that, when I talked to them I was only aware of the other post.
I am not saying it does not exist, of course it does, it is probably even more terrible for them, the only thing I am saying is that that specific word can be used by a plethora of people in different circumstances.
You know I’m in no way ignorant about what you’re talking about and I want you to know that I find it offensive on a visceral level. I hope channer humor and the thrill of using a normalized insult is worth alienating LGBT people.
Yes. I am taking this issue personally now.
Sorry if I’m a bit dense but are you both talking about channers sticking the f-word on everything? Does it mean anything other than being offensive? I don’t want to cause drama I just am not sure I understand the context/subtext.
Thank you for taking the time to reply, I understand your argument and I agree that I’d rather we rehabilitate people vs ban and leave them to problematic views and takes.
I can’t comment on the cultural aspects personally.
My main concern is what Seanchaí highlighted:
“The second was a a tweet by a nazbol (nazbol was literally in the @) that said that disabled black trans women didn’t need to exist. That’s it. That was the post.”
We don’t need this content on here and i want to know why it was deemed acceptable to post in the first place.
Was it meant to be a “shit fascists say” sort of post?
Secondly I don’t think their response to being called out on saying the f-slur was appropriate.
If you vouch for them that this was more of a language barrier/understanding issue I understand but what I’m worried about is that this is a “I won’t do it again” (because I’ll get banned) vs a “I won’t do it again” (because I legitimately understand why I fucked up and why it was wrong) situation.
I guess what I’m asking for is a guarantee that they legitimately understand why they fucked up.
I understand that isn’t exactly simple but can you appreciate that given the amount of random and frankly unnecessary downvotes on explicitly queer content in c/196 for example (a sub that has since its creation on reddit long before lemmygrad, always been a safe space for queer people and uncritically supporitve) that seem to follow nearly all posts, that’s there’s a genuine concern for some users on here that a spectre of homophobia/transphobia haunts lemmygrad in the form of reactionary users.
I’d like to change hearts and minds but I believe there’s users on here who dogmatically don’t like queer people and this does make me feel uncomfortable.
Personally that’s how I feel regarding all this. I want this place to help others grow but not at the detriment of already existing users so again I’d personally need some sort of guarantee that your friend understands quite how badly they fucked up and recognises why others are upset.
I just found out about the second post, which I was not aware of when I asked for his forgiveness. I am sorry and I think he should remained permanently banned.
Yeah I just saw your response to panic.
No worries and yes I think for now that is probably best until they can re-address that aspect of their understanding.