• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    42 years ago

    They’re more tied than you might expect. People in Europe have become accustomed to a certain standard of living. They’re seeing their living conditions collapsing right now because of the trade war with Russia. This affects every aspect of life.

    For example, cheap Russian energy was the basis for European industry. Without it, companies are already starting to move production to places like China. This means factories are closing and people are losing their jobs. Since goods are no longer produced locally, they have to be imported at higher prices. Bills for stuff like heating and gas are going up, and so on.

    As the living conditions continue to deteriorate people are starting to riot and protest which leads to society being unable to function.

    • Salamander
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      12 years ago

      People in Europe have become accustomed to a certain standard of living. They’re seeing their living conditions collapsing right now because of the trade war with Russia.

      I am a person in Europe. Sure, there has been some price inflation. But seeing our “living conditions collapsing” sounds like a stretch.

      • @Shaggy0291@lemmygrad.ml
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        61 year ago

        I’m also a European. Inflation and energy prices where I’m at are actually stupendous. There’s currently mass movements in place to simply boycott paying energy bills its gotten so bad.

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          1 year ago

          I am very sorry to hear that. I genuinely hope that you use the word “collapse” in a more liberal way than I do. I am saying I hope and not implying that you do, and I definitely don’t say this in any way trying to minimize or disregard your pain and suffering. I wish the best to you and your family, and hopefully the projections that Yσɠƚԋσʂ has mentioned about what is to come by Spring turns out to not materialize.

            • Salamander
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              41 year ago

              I definitely consider a change to not being able to afford showers a collapse of the standard of living. That sucks, and your experience is definitely a powerful counter-example to my experience.

              I try to keep a realistic perspective about my own privileged conditions, and I am well-aware that relative to the whole world I am incredibly privileged. But I might be underestimating my level of privilege within Europe.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        22 years ago

        It hasn’t been that long yet, and inflation is already in double digits across Europe with no signs of stopping. While you personally might not be affected, I imagine this is a big problem for a lot of people as evidenced by all the protests. And the real effects of all this will likely be felt in spring when current energy reserves are projected to run out.

        • Salamander
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          41 year ago

          Other people living in Europe have shared their own experiences here, and their lives have been significantly affected by it already. So it is clear that my experience is not representative. I am not worried about my own living conditions this coming spring, but I also understand that I am privileged in many, many ways - and my perspective is much narrower than I would like.