Yep, this list is automatically updated and the page exists on every lemmy instance – the software installs it by default. Now that I blocked this instance you will see the page updated automatically with it in the blocklist.
Defederating, or the blocklist, is unilateral. We only block instances that do nothing against spam or are fascist. Don’t have any other reason to block tbh.
Since beehaw blocks us, we and they won’t see each other’s content, but we can still meet in “neutral ground”, i.e. third-party instances that we both federate with. I’m not entirely sure if it works different, I think if one instance puts you in the blocklist it’s enough that you will never see each other.
The reason they block us is because they are anticommunist 🤐 They thought, when they set up beehaw, that we took up too much space on their server and that was one reason given for not federating. Then they found out it was a bug with log files (lemmygrad doesn’t take 80 gigs of space lol).
Now I’m also seeing a lot of overlap between beehaw, sopuli and perthchat (possibly other instances as well, such as midwest.social and mander.xyz) – they share mods and users. If I didn’t know any better I’d say they’re concerting with each other to form a bloc of sorts. But that’s also just the nature of federation.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I know mostly how federation works, and I knew that defederating was unilateral, but I didn’t realize that this list was automated and I guess assumed that if they defederated with us they would be removed from the link list. Seeing this really puts into perspective for me how many of the instances blocked us instead of the other way around, because I only ever see any posts from lemmygrad and lemmy. I know many of these instances are probably dead/inactive but wow.
Haven’t even heard of most of the ones on our block list.
Did lemmy.ca also defederate from us or are they just inactive? I sort of thought I’d start seeing more klanada-centric stuff when they first announced they made that instance.
One more question if you don’t mind, do you guys get notified when an instance in our link list blocks us, or is it just…they’re there one day and gone the next and you’re just as surprised?
Did lemmy.ca also defederate from us or are they just inactive? I sort of thought I’d start seeing more klanada-centric stuff when they first announced they made that instance.
According to their instances list: https://lemmy.ca/instances, we are one of three instances they block 🤣 (one is wolfballs, the other is a Breton-language instance of all things to block).
One more question if you don’t mind, do you guys get notified when an instance in our link list blocks us, or is it just…they’re there one day and gone the next and you’re just as surprised?
I think it’s the latter. I’ve never got a message or anything.
Documentation is lacking on lemmy so most of the stuff I learn through trial and error x) for example, I have no idea why I’m discovering instances that we should federate with (federation is enabled by a checkbox) but don’t.
kenstroller.fedi.bzh is banned from there because they had a problem with racist trolls signing up for a while and going from there to harass other instances. The content on that instance is in and of itself not racist, just the way signups work there it seems.
EDIT: Also seems the Breton instance follows the logic of other instances somehow in banning Catra, which is weird lmao. Maybe affiliated with some fuckier elements?
Yep, this list is automatically updated and the page exists on every lemmy instance – the software installs it by default. Now that I blocked this instance you will see the page updated automatically with it in the blocklist.
Defederating, or the blocklist, is unilateral. We only block instances that do nothing against spam or are fascist. Don’t have any other reason to block tbh.
Since beehaw blocks us, we and they won’t see each other’s content, but we can still meet in “neutral ground”, i.e. third-party instances that we both federate with. I’m not entirely sure if it works different, I think if one instance puts you in the blocklist it’s enough that you will never see each other.
The reason they block us is because they are anticommunist 🤐 They thought, when they set up beehaw, that we took up too much space on their server and that was one reason given for not federating. Then they found out it was a bug with log files (lemmygrad doesn’t take 80 gigs of space lol).
Now I’m also seeing a lot of overlap between beehaw, sopuli and perthchat (possibly other instances as well, such as midwest.social and mander.xyz) – they share mods and users. If I didn’t know any better I’d say they’re concerting with each other to form a bloc of sorts. But that’s also just the nature of federation.
Oh, the log files got them. I’ve had many stories of multi-gigabyte-large log files breaking stuff on my servers.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I know mostly how federation works, and I knew that defederating was unilateral, but I didn’t realize that this list was automated and I guess assumed that if they defederated with us they would be removed from the link list. Seeing this really puts into perspective for me how many of the instances blocked us instead of the other way around, because I only ever see any posts from lemmygrad and lemmy. I know many of these instances are probably dead/inactive but wow.
Haven’t even heard of most of the ones on our block list.
Did lemmy.ca also defederate from us or are they just inactive? I sort of thought I’d start seeing more klanada-centric stuff when they first announced they made that instance.
One more question if you don’t mind, do you guys get notified when an instance in our link list blocks us, or is it just…they’re there one day and gone the next and you’re just as surprised?
According to their instances list: https://lemmy.ca/instances, we are one of three instances they block 🤣 (one is wolfballs, the other is a Breton-language instance of all things to block).
I think it’s the latter. I’ve never got a message or anything.
Documentation is lacking on lemmy so most of the stuff I learn through trial and error x) for example, I have no idea why I’m discovering instances that we should federate with (federation is enabled by a checkbox) but don’t.
kenstroller.fedi.bzh is banned from there because they had a problem with racist trolls signing up for a while and going from there to harass other instances. The content on that instance is in and of itself not racist, just the way signups work there it seems.
EDIT: Also seems the Breton instance follows the logic of other instances somehow in banning Catra, which is weird lmao. Maybe affiliated with some fuckier elements?