• adroit balloon
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      A referendum to either become a state or remain a territory is not relevant to the question of the occupation.

      only because you’ve moved the goalposts when you couldn’t win that argument with facts.

      People were never given a choice of independence

      the people always ave that choice. they can protest, revolt, etc. Did the Bolsheviks just ask the Tsars to pretty please step aside?

      Seems that you’re intentionally arguing in bad faith here.

      I’m not the one ignoring facts, employing logical fallacies and hurling personal insults when I don’t “win” online arguments.

      Clearly you’re a much bigger idiot than I thought you were.

      can’t argue with facts, so playskool insults it is. classy. no wonder I see he molding full of you getting posts and comments removed, and you’re totally banned form lemmy.world.

      also explains this post https://lemmy.ml/post/2756876

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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        only because you’ve moved the goalposts when you couldn’t win that argument with facts.

        I didn’t move any goal posts. I said Hawaii is an occupied territory, and you came back with BuT ThEy HaD a RefErEnduM. Forgetting to mention that the referendum wasn’t actually about independence and that the people of Hawaii were never given a choice of independence by their occupiers.

        There is no false dichotomy here. It’s hilarious seeing your comment history where you communicate through memes like a 5 year old child.

        the people always ave that choice. they can protest, revolt, etc. Did the Bolsheviks just ask the Tsars to pretty please step aside?

        People in Hawaii are revolting against your regime as we speak.

        The facts are that you made false claim and now you don’t even have the decency to admit it. No point having further discussion with a liar.

        also explains this post https://lemmy.ml/post/2756876

        love living rent free in your collective heads

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          I didn’t move any goal posts.

          “nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

          There is no false dichotomy here.

          see my previous reply

          People in Hawaii are revolting against your regime as we speak.

          a handful of protesters is hardly a “revolt”, but you’re adorable for thinking “big”.

          The facts are

          the last thing you have is a grasp on the facts. your comment an post history are proof enough of that, with a long history of bans, deleted comments, and verbally being drummed you of most places you visit or being a toxic mess.

          love living rent free in your collective heads

          how sad for you

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            “nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

            Amazing that @whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml, who is also a fan of those weird debate fallacy images, posted this in another thread today:

            “nuh-uh” isn’t a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

            Also this, also from today:

            “I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

            You also posted that second one, verbatim, this afternoon as @adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml.

            You’re the same person, aren’t you?

            Edit: Lol you even responded to an argument in this thread while still logged in to @whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml, then deleted it because someone noticed.

            • adroit balloon
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              it’s not amazing that I can copy and paste images I see in other comment threads. especially when they work well… I even say that’s what I did in several comments.

              it’s sad that, rather than seeing that you’re wrong, you invent conspiracies, lmao. you’re not that important

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                  No one’s buying it, you know that, right?

                  Whhaaaa??? you mean to say that a brigading band of angry trolls from two of the most toxic instances in the fediverse remain unconvinced by facts and logic??? GASP!!

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                    No, I’m talking about the one angry troll pretending to be six different people who is being toxic in this thread.

                    That’s you, since you seem to have trouble understanding things that aren’t spelled out for you (or for that matter, things that are).

                    You’re committing a strawman fallacy, or a false equivalence, or a false dichotomy, whatever, take your pick. You don’t know the difference, anyway.

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                  the ‘ligma’ fallacy

                  oh, geez, I would, but you’re mom’s been working on it all day… 🏀⚽️

                  I’ll let ya know when she’s done! xD

                  • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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                    seems like they struck a nerve if you’re this bent out of shape defending one of the US colonial occupations- I get that it’s strategically important to have a military base right smack in the middle of the pacific, but come on don’t be a ghoul.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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            “nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

            Do feel free to articulate which goal posts you’re claiming that I moved. Be specific.

            see my previous reply

            I did, it’s nonsensical.

            a handful of protesters is hardly a “revolt”, but you’re adorable for thinking “big”.

            Way to dismiss majority of the native population. I guess that’s what you’d expect from racist occupiers.

            the last thing you have is a grasp on the facts. your comment an post history are proof enough of that, with a long history of bans, deleted comments, and verbally being drummed you of most places you visit or being a toxic mess.

            Wow interesting narrative you made up about me there. Maybe send me of whatever drugs you’re having while hallucinating these things, cause that sounds like some good shit.

            how sad for you

            Nah, it’s free entertainment for me kddio.

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              Do feel free to articulate which goal posts you’re claiming that I moved. Be specific.

              I already have, in detail. sealioning as you last line of attack? boring…

              I did, it’s nonsensical.

              I’m not responsible for your lack of comprehension.

              Way to dismiss majority of the native population.

              Wow interesting narrative you made up about me there

              anyone is free to look at your comment history or the modlogs. no drugs necessary. how like you to hurl insult - yet again - when confronted with facts you can’t refute.

              Nah, it’s free entertainment for me kddio.

              not very convincing….

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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                You have not done any such thing, but I guess lying is all you’ve been doing here, so that’s par for the course.

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                  You have not done any such thing

                  “nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

                  but I guess lying is all you’ve been doing here

                  “I know you are but what am I?” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.