No it’s not a joke. When I say “respectful” here I am referring to the respect afforded someone when you actually want them to engage with you. If you want someone to actually engage with the shit you say, then the bare minimum to receive that engagement is to reciprocate. That is good faith engagement between two people regardless of tone. If I’m going to talk to the other side, the baseline for that conversation to not become highly aggressive is to actually talk instead of fucking around dodging every single question and then going for the topic change and expecting me to continue engaging after they clearly did not engage with me.
“You’re being aggressive”. Of course my tone is grumpy after someone has intentionally dodging every single word I say who is now self-admittedly not part of any “leftist” ideology whatsoever that this instance is supposed to be about. Their pattern of behaviour is synonymous with wreckers, their intent here is solely to fuck with a leftist project and do harm or mischief in whatever ways they can come up with.
I’d rather talk to someone that insults me while actually genuinely responding to the things I say than talk to someone that engages in this kind of weasel behaviour, it is far far worse and far more damaging to any sense of community. It functions to generate enormous amounts of distrust between a community and a naive modteam that continually puts up with the more damaging behaviour by affording it far more leeway than it deserves.
OK sorry I was a bit aggresive myself. What I mean is I am someone who is here to listen to different perspectives than what western libertarian media explains me. I think I am open minded and ready to changee/adjust my view on different subject, including the war you are discussing here. I think Lemmy could be a place where I get anticapitalists and antiliberals view on these subject.
I just mean to inform you that your behavior discredit yourself so much to me that I am more skeptical about the position you defend after reading you than before.
To me there are several possible situation here :
you are not talking to people like me here on this public space, but to another specific group I don’t identify. Then ok, keep on, I am sorry I disturbed you.
your are getting angry and (maybe legitimatelyly) being an jerk to someone here. I think this is useless, and make you look more like an asshole than the person you where hating on.
you are talking to people you already agree with by just I showing belonging to this community by being toxic to outsiders. Than you don’t like like an asshole, you are an asshole. (I don’t think this is the case though.)
you are talking to indecisive person like me, hoping to bring your understanding to the public debate to help people like me understand. Then, I just think you should know that to me, you are doing it wrong. Wrong enough to be counterproductive.
Sorry for the long post, hope you understand what I mean !
Ok so let’s reset then. What are you indecisive about and what would you like to understand? While this person would not speak to me in good faith you appear very willing to.
No it’s not a joke. When I say “respectful” here I am referring to the respect afforded someone when you actually want them to engage with you. If you want someone to actually engage with the shit you say, then the bare minimum to receive that engagement is to reciprocate. That is good faith engagement between two people regardless of tone. If I’m going to talk to the other side, the baseline for that conversation to not become highly aggressive is to actually talk instead of fucking around dodging every single question and then going for the topic change and expecting me to continue engaging after they clearly did not engage with me.
“You’re being aggressive”. Of course my tone is grumpy after someone has intentionally dodging every single word I say who is now self-admittedly not part of any “leftist” ideology whatsoever that this instance is supposed to be about. Their pattern of behaviour is synonymous with wreckers, their intent here is solely to fuck with a leftist project and do harm or mischief in whatever ways they can come up with.
I’d rather talk to someone that insults me while actually genuinely responding to the things I say than talk to someone that engages in this kind of weasel behaviour, it is far far worse and far more damaging to any sense of community. It functions to generate enormous amounts of distrust between a community and a naive modteam that continually puts up with the more damaging behaviour by affording it far more leeway than it deserves.
OK sorry I was a bit aggresive myself. What I mean is I am someone who is here to listen to different perspectives than what western libertarian media explains me. I think I am open minded and ready to changee/adjust my view on different subject, including the war you are discussing here. I think Lemmy could be a place where I get anticapitalists and antiliberals view on these subject.
I just mean to inform you that your behavior discredit yourself so much to me that I am more skeptical about the position you defend after reading you than before.
To me there are several possible situation here :
Sorry for the long post, hope you understand what I mean !
Ok so let’s reset then. What are you indecisive about and what would you like to understand? While this person would not speak to me in good faith you appear very willing to.