Yes that’s fair. He is allowing Russia and the USA to use the Ukraine as munitions test site, in this war game they playing.
I’ve even argued that he should have surrendered early on. The USA will not allow Russia to control those ports. It would have stepped in and started bombing the Russian army within hours. Russia would withdraw. The Ukraine would be saved.
Now, we will eventually have the same outcome IMO, but only after the Russian army and the Ukrainian cities are destroyed.
Uh, Russia already controls most of the Ukrainian coast, what’s left? Nikolaev and Odessa - areas that have a reliable history of voting against the western puppets.
“The USA will not allow” - ok and what the hell do you think would happen if America threw off any pretense and attacked Russian forces directly? If that were to happen, pray you live close enough to the impact that you just get vaporized and don’t have to die from radiation poisoning. The US knows they are walking a tightrope here, they’re happy to keep sending weapons, to provide intelligence on Russian positions, but actually attacking the Russians directly, with US personnel, is out of the question.
Also Russia’s using a very small amount of its army in the Ukraine, and they are hardly going to be ‘destroyed’ - on the contrary, Russia is gonna be left as the only country with an actually combat-tested military after this is over.
NATO is using an even smaller amount of its force right now. It can continue drawing Russia on into the Ukraine, then gradually escalate and push back. It can control the pace of the war. I think it will win. But it will try to prolong the war as long as possible, to engage more of Russia’s army.
lol NATO is incapable of winning anything except to destroy helpless, small nations that had the temerity not to bow and scrape to them as slaves. They aren’t going to win this, Russia will not allow it, because Russia cannot allow it. NATO control over the Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia, and Russia has a lot more room to escalate than NATO does. What, realistically is left? They’ve already given the Banderites their fancy HIMARS systems, which the nazi scum immediately used to attack civilians. (BTW Kiev also had to pinky-promise not to strike Russia with USian weapons as a condition of getting them, and immediately reneged on that).
Don’t forget, the USians are already repealing sanctions now. They are trying to de-escalate tensions with Russia at least in the economic sphere as we have royally fucked ourselves in this regard. But they will get something out of this war that they started though. The EU has become even more deeply enslaved to US interests and has no capacity for independent action any more. I question how useful having the EU to drain of resources is in the long term though…
Apparently they lifted sanctions on the German subsidiary of Gazprom and the Kazakh subsidiary of Alfa-Bank, along with sanctions against Russia generally in relation to fertilizers, food, seeds, medicines and medical equipment. And the US treasury even said that the US shouldn’t try and limit Russian oil sales ‘if its price is limited’. This was reported a couple days ago, no idea if it’s already in effect or whatever.
Yes that’s fair. He is allowing Russia and the USA to use the Ukraine as munitions test site, in this war game they playing.
I’ve even argued that he should have surrendered early on. The USA will not allow Russia to control those ports. It would have stepped in and started bombing the Russian army within hours. Russia would withdraw. The Ukraine would be saved.
Now, we will eventually have the same outcome IMO, but only after the Russian army and the Ukrainian cities are destroyed.
Uh, Russia already controls most of the Ukrainian coast, what’s left? Nikolaev and Odessa - areas that have a reliable history of voting against the western puppets.
“The USA will not allow” - ok and what the hell do you think would happen if America threw off any pretense and attacked Russian forces directly? If that were to happen, pray you live close enough to the impact that you just get vaporized and don’t have to die from radiation poisoning. The US knows they are walking a tightrope here, they’re happy to keep sending weapons, to provide intelligence on Russian positions, but actually attacking the Russians directly, with US personnel, is out of the question.
Also Russia’s using a very small amount of its army in the Ukraine, and they are hardly going to be ‘destroyed’ - on the contrary, Russia is gonna be left as the only country with an actually combat-tested military after this is over.
Could be.
NATO is using an even smaller amount of its force right now. It can continue drawing Russia on into the Ukraine, then gradually escalate and push back. It can control the pace of the war. I think it will win. But it will try to prolong the war as long as possible, to engage more of Russia’s army.
lol NATO is incapable of winning anything except to destroy helpless, small nations that had the temerity not to bow and scrape to them as slaves. They aren’t going to win this, Russia will not allow it, because Russia cannot allow it. NATO control over the Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia, and Russia has a lot more room to escalate than NATO does. What, realistically is left? They’ve already given the Banderites their fancy HIMARS systems, which the nazi scum immediately used to attack civilians. (BTW Kiev also had to pinky-promise not to strike Russia with USian weapons as a condition of getting them, and immediately reneged on that).
Don’t forget, the USians are already repealing sanctions now. They are trying to de-escalate tensions with Russia at least in the economic sphere as we have royally fucked ourselves in this regard. But they will get something out of this war that they started though. The EU has become even more deeply enslaved to US interests and has no capacity for independent action any more. I question how useful having the EU to drain of resources is in the long term though…
It will be interesting. If Russia can keep control of the region, and NATO doesn’t scorch the earth, that would really change global geopolitics.
Which sanctions have been repealed?
Apparently they lifted sanctions on the German subsidiary of Gazprom and the Kazakh subsidiary of Alfa-Bank, along with sanctions against Russia generally in relation to fertilizers, food, seeds, medicines and medical equipment. And the US treasury even said that the US shouldn’t try and limit Russian oil sales ‘if its price is limited’. This was reported a couple days ago, no idea if it’s already in effect or whatever.
Oh right. I heard that the EU is turning a blind eye to fertiliser smuggling, ignoring its own laws. But not the other things.