Just a few weeks ago I used a dumbphone for 2 days in the US.
During that time
I was called for work while out and the caller expected me to review their email and respond while on the phone with them. This would have been easy with a smartphone, but instead I had to go home, review their email, then call them back the next day. They were annoyed by the inconvenience and delay.
I was called to schedule a doctors appointment while out, I needed to call the office back when I got home because I could not check my calendar without a smartphone.
I was working on a project and wanted to take a photos for memories / share when explaining why the project was taking so long. I needed to leave the project site, go home, grab my camera, return to the site, take the photos, upload them to my computer, then email them.
I wanted to log in to an account while away home, but I was unable to access my password manager or email without my smart phone.
My family went out to eat and I needed to borrow one of their smartphones because I could not scan the QR code for the menu and the restaurant did not have paper menus available.
I needed to deposit a check, so I would have driven nearly 20 miles round trip if I had not used remote deposit on my smartphone instead.
I wanted to listen to an audiobook from the library, but I need to use the overdrive / libby app in order to do this.
I heard a song on the radio and I could not use Shazam to identify it.
I needed to display a ticket for an event, so I had a friend save my ticket on their smartphone and they used their phone for both of us.
I needed to read a smart home monitor, but the only interface available was a smartphone app.
Discord kept crashing on my desktop, so I used my smartphone instead.
I gave up using a dumbphone after only 2 days because smartphones are integrated so deeply into modern society that it felt prohibitively difficult to function without one where I live in the United States. Everywhere a person goes it is assumed they have a smartphone on them, so anyone without a smartphone needs to find workarounds for simple tasks and is forced to navigate dozens of inconveniences every day.
I am spoiled and addicted to the convenience that smartphones provide, but my experience persuaded me that systemic changes, instead of individual choices, are necessary to ultimately solve these problems. Evidently, it can not be expected that a significant portion of the public will choose to abstain from the convenience smartphones offer even when they are educated about the harms caused by smartphones. Therefore, the only solution I can imagine is regulation to mitigate those harms, and humane technology design that solves the problems of profit-maximizing technology design.
The US public library services’ reliance on Overdrive, Libby, Hoopla, Kanopy, etc. is unfortunate, as they often only support Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android, and even then, only with the official Chrome, Firefox, or Safari builds.
Additionally, a fair selection of the library’s ebooks are often only offered as one of either Adobe Digital Editions or Kindle, both of which are mutually exclusive formats as I understand it.
I hope public libraries in other countries are somewhat less restrictive in their online offerings. My university library uses O’Reilly, which caters to browsers and operating systems without DRM or even JavaScript.
Re: radio–it’s nearly always possible to see the day’s playlist on the station’s website.
But to add another point, navigation is a chore. It is now expected that everyone can use Google Maps to chart an effective route anywhere at all times. This becomes even more difficult for places with which one is less familiar.
Hearing a song I liked and missing the opportunity to listen to it again later is not a serious issue, just another piece of straw on the camels back.
My point is that a lot of little inconveniences add up to a significant life-style change, especially when the end-user is supposed to choose that life-style change.
Oh come on, are you doing this again? Ask for a list of things that people want to use a smartphone for, then dismiss them all outright as useless trivialities?
I’ll put it this way. You have twice asked the same question, then people spend a fair bit of time answering your question. You then dismiss them in a one sentence reply that doesn’t even address their comment. It’s inconsiderate to ask a question like that if you don’t actually care about the answer.
Your rage covers the eyes. Where you have seen in this thread me asking such a question? The only question I asked was related to a location where people can or cannot live without a smartphone ;)
I have never asked about this it’s up to everyone. The only answer I got is USA is a wrong place for people with dumbphones. I was pretty surprised honestly.
If you want another location, China’s cities. Almost all transactions are done via mobile payment systems.
You’ve had two people independently think that you wanted a “why”. If you don’t care about the “why” component (which seems the case), then maybe clarify the question so people don’t waste half an hour on a post you’ll mostly ignore?
Just a few weeks ago I used a dumbphone for 2 days in the US.
During that time
I gave up using a dumbphone after only 2 days because smartphones are integrated so deeply into modern society that it felt prohibitively difficult to function without one where I live in the United States. Everywhere a person goes it is assumed they have a smartphone on them, so anyone without a smartphone needs to find workarounds for simple tasks and is forced to navigate dozens of inconveniences every day.
I am spoiled and addicted to the convenience that smartphones provide, but my experience persuaded me that systemic changes, instead of individual choices, are necessary to ultimately solve these problems. Evidently, it can not be expected that a significant portion of the public will choose to abstain from the convenience smartphones offer even when they are educated about the harms caused by smartphones. Therefore, the only solution I can imagine is regulation to mitigate those harms, and humane technology design that solves the problems of profit-maximizing technology design.
The US public library services’ reliance on Overdrive, Libby, Hoopla, Kanopy, etc. is unfortunate, as they often only support Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android, and even then, only with the official Chrome, Firefox, or Safari builds.
Additionally, a fair selection of the library’s ebooks are often only offered as one of either Adobe Digital Editions or Kindle, both of which are mutually exclusive formats as I understand it.
I hope public libraries in other countries are somewhat less restrictive in their online offerings. My university library uses O’Reilly, which caters to browsers and operating systems without DRM or even JavaScript.
Re: radio–it’s nearly always possible to see the day’s playlist on the station’s website.
But to add another point, navigation is a chore. It is now expected that everyone can use Google Maps to chart an effective route anywhere at all times. This becomes even more difficult for places with which one is less familiar.
It is so sad that you have been through that.
Hearing a song I liked and missing the opportunity to listen to it again later is not a serious issue, just another piece of straw on the camels back.
My point is that a lot of little inconveniences add up to a significant life-style change, especially when the end-user is supposed to choose that life-style change.
got you
So tragic
I think it mostly depends on your habits and daily routines, of course dumbphone is changing a lot, but also freeing you from many useless activities.
Oh come on, are you doing this again? Ask for a list of things that people want to use a smartphone for, then dismiss them all outright as useless trivialities?
Should I ask you for a permission the next time I feel I have to do this again?
I’ll put it this way. You have twice asked the same question, then people spend a fair bit of time answering your question. You then dismiss them in a one sentence reply that doesn’t even address their comment. It’s inconsiderate to ask a question like that if you don’t actually care about the answer.
Your rage covers the eyes. Where you have seen in this thread me asking such a question? The only question I asked was related to a location where people can or cannot live without a smartphone ;)
So you wanted people to not explain themselves?
I have never asked about this it’s up to everyone. The only answer I got is USA is a wrong place for people with dumbphones. I was pretty surprised honestly.
Do you like to bully people like that? :)
If you want another location, China’s cities. Almost all transactions are done via mobile payment systems.
You’ve had two people independently think that you wanted a “why”. If you don’t care about the “why” component (which seems the case), then maybe clarify the question so people don’t waste half an hour on a post you’ll mostly ignore?