• Arthur BesseA
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    12 years ago

    are you saying their EULA isn’t enforced? or what?

    how can it be fully auditable while explicitly prohibiting attempts to derive the source code?

    • @ZerushOP
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      12 years ago

      It’s means that you can’t use this code (derive) for other projects or browsers, but permits to mod your Vivaldi to your like (on the own risk), that is tolerated.

      • Arthur BesseA
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        12 years ago

        that is tolerated

        i’m pretty sure that if you reverse engineer Google Chrome (google’s proprietary version of Chromium), google will also tolerate it as long as you don’t redistribute it, but, the difference is, you don’t generally need to because Chromium is actually free/libre open source software so there are lots of independent builds of it and its many derivatives (of which vivaldi is one, albeit another proprietary one like Chrome).

        if you want to use a privacy-focused chromium derivative that is actually free software, i think ungoogled-chromium is a decent one.

        • @ZerushOP
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          12 years ago

          Be well informed and try to do reverse engineering with Chrome. Chrome, just like Vivaldi, is based on Chromium, but from there the similarities end. You don’t need to reverse engineer Vivaldi to modify the proprietary UI, the only part that is. You can degoogle Vivaldi yourself in the privacy settings, since, unlike others, in Vivaldi it is an option, because there are users of Google services (students, professionals…), which require certain Google APIs to work, even Firefox incorporates them because of this and also ‘ungoogled’ Chromium, but where you can’t disable them, in Vivaldi you can, if you don’t want to use Google services (Crypto Tokens, WebstoreAPi if you want to use extensions from there, and some others), the internal Google telemetry APIs are already removed from Vivaldi by default, same as in a degoogled Chromium. That is, you can degoogle Vivaldi as an option to such an extent that Google doesn’t recognize it as Chromium, if you want. But in this case some pages and services will not work for you, If a “degoogled” Chromium can use Gmail, Blogger, Hangouts or now Google Chats and extensions from the Chrome Store, it isn’t really degoogled. Even Firefox, less the Google Store, can use these, a degoogled Vivaldi with all APIs desactivated, can’t.