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    -12 years ago

    Communism’s main differentiating factor is literally no private property so if a country is claiming to be communist but violates this basic property it’s clearly not communist and that’s revisionism. Don’t be condescending to anyone to anyone based on their age just because they don’t agree with you I will not change my opinion on something because people do bad things with it, it is completely irrelevant how other people misuse something.

    • Communism is unattainable in current society, there are no communist societies yet, and communist revolutions only put a communist party in charge of a country or region that still has to exist in the current world order. There are no communist nations, because nations arose primarily out of class struggle and a communist society would be one without class struggle, so no country, so there never will be a “communist nation”. We can only right now put a party in charge that understands and is guided by socialist theory and socialist principles, which is called AES (Actually existing socialism).

      Revisionism is misunderstanding basic socialist theory like what you just typed

      None of this is related to crypto anyway, you just don’t understand that new technologies will incentivize people to use them in specific ways, and these incentives in this case create an overall terrible effect on society that has already ruined lives and wastes precious labor and engineering talent. That’s why I’m saying you’re young, because it’s something you understand when you get old, and it’s not something I understood when I was young.

      The incentives created by crypto lend itself to being used for bad things no matter the original intentions of anybody who makes any system or writes any code, the longer it’s allowed to exist as meme currency the more harm it will do to society at large. Any number of small stories of somebody actually being able to pay for a burger with only $100 of gas fees are massively outweighed by families losing their money because mom tried to get rich on a shitcoin because they’re poor and looking for any way to get out of their economic strife.

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        -32 years ago

        I’m not naive which is why I don’t believe in communism read this https://lemmy.ml/post/255553?scrollToComments=true and tell me if anything in that would make you want to live in China or any other country guided by a socialist party. THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF COMMUNISM IS TO CREATE A MARKETLESS, WAGELESS, CLASSLESS AND MONEYLESS SOCIETY WHERE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION IS COLLECTIVELY OWNED. ALL COMMUNIST COUNTRIES LITERALLY STAGED VIOLENT REVOLUTIONS AND COMMIT MASSIVE HUMANS RIGHTS VIOLATIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING THIS SOCIETY NO COUNTRY THAT HAS/HAD A COMMUNIST PARTY IN POWER HAS EVER EVEN COME SLIGHTLY CLOSE TO THIS IDEAL BUT INSTEAD HAVE BEEN/ARE STATES WHERE ALL THE MEANS OF PRODUCTIONS ARE OWNED BY THE STATE AND ANY BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALLOWED BASED ON THE GRACES OF THE PART, WITH LAND BEING EXPROPRIATED BY THE STATE FOR BASICALLY FREE TO SELL TO MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS, RULE BY DECREE INSTEAD OF RULE LAW, HUGE AMOUNTS OF BUREAUCRACY, NO RIGHT TO UNIONIZE AND NO PRIVACY ETC “ACTUAL EXISTING SOCIALISM” DOESN’T RESEMBLE ANY WRITINGS OF ANY MARXISTS ECONOMISTS AND IS INFINITELY WORSE THAN ANY CAPITALIST STATE IT PURPORTS TO BE MORE FAIR THAN EVEN STATES WITH THEIR CITIZENS LEAVING IN DROVES FOR LITERALLY ANY OTHER STATE. I GIVE ZERO FUCKS HOW SOMEONE USES A PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SEEK OUT THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO UTILIZE ANY PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY AND ANY FAILURE TO DO IS A REFLECTION OF YOUR PERSONAL INEPTITUDE AND NOT A FAILING OF THAT PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY

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            Yes im coping that communism is such a shit idea that every country that tries it falls apart and ends up reintroducing an even worse version of capitalism but just rebrands it with idiots defending this and saying it’s better

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                -22 years ago

                “Private property is ok, deregulation is good, markets are efficient and free trade is swell” - Marx and other communist economists

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                    -12 years ago

                    Are you ok in the head? You do realise that Singapore is literally the poster boy for capitalism with the lowest levels of government interference in the economy, extremely low taxes and little to no barriers to trade

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          22 years ago

          Caps lock should be a bannable offense.