Especially when communists are on the table, they just always lean fucking fascist.

  • NasgorTikusEnjoyer
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    It all depends on the person’s material condition, most liberals (and most people in general) in the west tend to be white and middle class and fascism is less of a threat to them personally than communism. Opposing fascism for liberals comes from virtue signaling and general societal agreement that fascism is bad but communism directly threatens their livelihoods. Propaganda helps, sure but not even genocide, brainwashing and indoctrination from childhood can fight personal material interest. I’m from Indonesia and everyone in my family wants to kill “communists” but are still in unions, support subsidies and join protests against privatization. Their material class interest overrides all the indoctrination and brainwashing that they got.

    • @xpladv570@lemmygrad.ml
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      in the west tend to be white and middle class and fascism is less of a threat to them personally than communism

      as if the rich weren’t doing everything in the power since the 80s to make everyone but themselves poorer, regardless if its poor, working poor, or petty-bourgeois. the middle class libs are literally fucking themselves over and not realizing it. thats the funniest part to me.

      watch how an entire generation of “learn to code bro” will slowly realize they are just as screwed as the filthy lazy unambitious tradesmen, and somehow they didnt end up as next musk or zuckerberg. and they will most certainly blame the system, not themselves. not like they havent been actively supporting and reinforcing the said system for their entire career life :)

      [for the record, i currently work in IT, but was doing manual labor for years before i finally got to where i am. you could say i saw the both sides of the fence]

      propaganda really did turn peoples mind and pride into mincemeat, didnt it? the neoliberal world order is not a threat to the white middle class. it has already destroyed them, years ago.

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      I think it’s also to do with the (explicit) fascist movement in places like America being smaller, less visible in media and less connected to riots and other things seen as threats to liberals. They probably think fascism is dead (well, unless they think Trump is a fascist).