• eldavi
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    i get the feeling that the labour government believes that russia is merely saber rattling again and i don’t like where this is going if labour displays the same obstinacy as the democrats did during & after the election.

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        I mean, what would the UK do if they got hit by a Russian missile? Can they even fight a war with Russia? Would the US care?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          The UK can’t do much of anything on their own, so the real question would be whether the US would risk a nuclear holocaust over UK or not. If the US does nothing then the whole NATO scam is going to collapse overnight though.

          Incidentally, the FT just described UK military as a Potemkin village

          The result is that Britain has a Potemkin village military retaining the emblems of a pocket superpower, but without the necessary hard capabilities. The present disordered world does not leave room for such tricks.

          https://archive.ph/oD87z

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              NATO serves to bolster US interests though, and having an all out nuclear war is not what US oligarchs want as Trump victory shows. So, I think there’s a very good chance they cut their losses. It’s not like Europe wouldn’t be dependent on US without NATO at the end of the day.

              • NATO’s 2 largest intrests where to collapse the USSR, and to ensure Europe stayed dependent on the United States, it has done that, the US is coasting off of it, however it very quickly could become too much hassle.

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                  Pretty much what I’m thinking. It’s also worth noting that the US sees China as the main adversary, so Europe is losing its strategic relevance.

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                    It also would make sense because even when the US drops Europe, they will still be financialy dependent on them, especialy after the US got them to cut all ties with russia

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          Why would Russia ever hit the UK? Outside of the situation where they have lost and the Russian state itself is going to collapse and be balkanized. They’re making steady gains in Ukraine and everyone is waiting to see what Trump ultimately does. Putin as the Western media portrays him would, I guess, but actual Putin went to war with Ukraine to ensure Russia’s future, not doom it.