☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to World News@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 18 hours agoSeveral officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union.www.nytimes.comexternal-linkmessage-square21fedilinkarrow-up140arrow-down10file-textcross-posted to: news@hexbear.netnytimes@rss.ponder.cat
arrow-up140arrow-down1external-linkSeveral officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union.www.nytimes.com☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to World News@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 18 hours agomessage-square21fedilinkfile-textcross-posted to: news@hexbear.netnytimes@rss.ponder.cat
minus-squareeldavilinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down9·16 hours agoi think that another one of the sadder take aways from the ukrainian war is that you should never give up your nuclear arsenal once you have them.
minus-square☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up22·15 hours agoUkraine never had a nuclear arsenal. USSR had nuclear weapons stationed in Ukraine, and Russia became the inheritor state when USSR dissolved.
minus-squaredavel [he/him]@lemmygrad.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up13·15 hours agoWould keeping their nukes have prevented US-backed coups in 2004 and 2014? If not, then it’s for the best that they gave them up before the Banderites took power.
minus-squareMarxMadness@lemmygrad.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·11 hours agoMaybe? Whether a country has nukes it could use to retaliate has to be part of the “should we coup/color revolution this country?” calculus.
minus-squaredavel [he/him]@lemmygrad.mllinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6·11 hours agoOne might argue that we couped the entire Warsaw Pact.
minus-squareREEEEvolution@lemmygrad.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up6·10 hours agoNothing to argue, this is what happened. Literally all former warsaw treaty countries, sans Belorussia, had western backed coups.
i think that another one of the sadder take aways from the ukrainian war is that you should never give up your nuclear arsenal once you have them.
Ukraine never had a nuclear arsenal. USSR had nuclear weapons stationed in Ukraine, and Russia became the inheritor state when USSR dissolved.
Would keeping their nukes have prevented US-backed coups in 2004 and 2014? If not, then it’s for the best that they gave them up before the Banderites took power.
very good point; mevermind
Maybe? Whether a country has nukes it could use to retaliate has to be part of the “should we coup/color revolution this country?” calculus.
One might argue that we couped the entire Warsaw Pact.
Nothing to argue, this is what happened. Literally all former warsaw treaty countries, sans Belorussia, had western backed coups.