• Cowbee [he/him]
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    3 hours ago

    The Dems won many elections and still moved right. And yes, the Dems would get more right wing if they could get away with it.

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      1 hour ago

      I think they moved right, because they couldn’t compete against trump, obama for example was a pretty good start if you ask me

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        They competed against Trump in 2020 and ran a more progressive campaign, and won. They competed against Trump in 2024 and ran a genocidal campaign that paraded around warmongers like Liz Cheney, and lost even the popular vote.

        Obama is the premier example of a warmongering neoliberal that could perfectly orate for progressive voters despite his actual policy, both domestic and foreign.