• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          30 days ago

          Russia is very much ending it, hence all the panic over Ukrainian army collapse that’s unfolding in western media right now.

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            30 days ago

            Why only now, what’s the benefit of keeping it on before

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              30 days ago

              Because it’s a war of attrition and it took a long time for the AFU to reach the point of collapse. Russia didn’t do big arrow offensives because those would’ve been very costly in terms of equipment and manpower as Ukraine found out during its fabled offensive. Instead, Russia chose to use its massive artillery advantage to grind out the AFU instead, and now we’re seeing the results of that approach. Here’s an analysis from an actual expert if you’re interested

              https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

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                29 days ago

                We gotta wonder whose benefit it is to keep on prolonging while the official story is different

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                  29 days ago

                  Given that Russia and Ukraine almost came to an agreement two months into the war and the west sabotaged it, I think there’s little question about that.

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                    29 days ago

                    It’s definitely fishy with sabotaging all around from different directions with all of the negotiation attemps

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                    29 days ago

                    Well lets see, 0 deaths for the west, minor investment compared to running an actual war…

                    As of October 2024, the estimated number of Russian deaths and costs in Ukraine are:

                    Russian deaths
                    

                    The U.S. estimates that Russia has suffered 115,000 deaths and 500,000 injuries in the war.

                    Western intelligence estimates vary, but some say the number of dead could be as high as 200,000.

                    Russian costs

                    Russia’s losses in Ukraine are greater than all of its casualties since World War II combined. The war has also set back Russia’s military modernization efforts by nearly two decades.

                    Ukrainian deaths

                    A U.S. official estimates that Ukraine has suffered more than 57,500 deaths and 250,000 injuries. However, Ukraine rarely comments on the scale of its battlefield deaths.

                    Armored vehicle losses

                    Russia has lost more than 8,000 armored vehicles, including 2,700 tanks. Ukraine has lost nearly 3,000 armored vehicles, including 740 tanks.

                    Recruitment

                    Russia has relaxed recruitment standards to allow older civilians and convicts to fight.

                    Estimates vary widely due to a number of factors, including Ukraine’s reluctance to disclose its losses and the fact that U.S. intelligence analysts have focused more on Russia’s casualties.

                    Ukraine is not in the west. So… If it’s Russia Vs. West, they’re losing really badly.

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              29 days ago

              Pretending Ukraine was winning was necessary to send them more weapons. They would never get funding for a war of attrition which ends in their loss.

              Now the obvious conclusion is unfolding and our media slowly changes tone as if they are surprised Ukraine cannot win.

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                28 days ago

                Though the weapons have been sent with the premise that Ukraine has been losing

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                  28 days ago

                  No, it was always “Ukraine is winning but might lose if we don’t help” because obviously if they just said “Ukraine is winning” then the help would be not needed.

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                    28 days ago

                    It was “Ukraine is on the verge of losing each second but a few weapons can keep their head above water until a peace is negotiated”