• The SpectreOP
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    The democrats are blue fascists and the republicans are red fascists. They are both fascists. They are both anti-democracy. Or do you think that people voted for genocide?

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      Calling them fascists is a little far-fetched. Do you have evidence to back up that claim? Linking a screenshot does not prove your point, it’s just more rhetoric. Yes, we have reached that point, because it’s a first-past-the-post system. We need to increase political engagement rather than stoking political apathy. We are in the mess that we are because less than 50% people vote in the first place.

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        We are in the mess that we are because less than 50% people vote in the first place.

        Even if 90% people vote, if they only have choice between a turd or a piece of shit, that’s not really a choice 🫠

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        We are in the mess that we are because less than 50% people vote in the first place.

        If 100% of people voted and the Dems won again, they would still be committing genocide. Not sure what your point is here.

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          That’s a strawman argument and a very big logical leap. If 100% of the people voted, maybe we could get candidates that actually represent us and our interests. The political makeup of this country would change and somehow you think they would still act the same.

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            maybe we could get candidates that actually represent us and our interests.

            Where? You’d still see liberals crying about leftists voting third party.

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              The NDP in Canada is a good example. Even though they also have a first-past-the-post system of voting, they still have a thriving progressive party. If more people were politically engaged, a lot more would be inclined towards progressive politics.

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                  I think the Red Scare might have a lot to do with it. The generation that was subjected to the propaganda of the Cold War is still alive and they’ve passed down a lot of that thought and bias, even among so called “liberals”. Canada was somewhat (but not completely ) culturally isolated from it. We cannot remediate the American political zeitgeist without addressing this first.

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                    The Red Scare wasn’t really mass-brainwashing, though. Ultimately, the Red Scare was popularly accepted because in the aftermath of WWII, the US was the rising Imperialist power, and was a thriving Social Democracy profiting off of the aftermath of war. The material conditions of the US supported the ideas held within, if that makes sense.

                    The Red Scare is weakening among younger generations because Capitalism is decaying. There is a revival of the Red Scare with respect to China, which is a demonstrably rising power in the East, but the Material Conditions of the US speak for itself.

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              The problem is that humans are the representatives, and they represent their interests first and foremost. You could get A.I. as our overlords, but they will represent the interests of those that program them. If that day ever arrives, I’m investing in Pepsico and Frito-Lays

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        Evidence that the democratic party is funding a genocide? Seriously?

        https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/29/politics/biden-congress-israel-military-aid/index.html

        https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/09/politics/us-releases-billions-israel-weapons-military-equipment/index.html

        We are in the mess that we are because less than 50% people vote in the first place.

        No we are in this mess because both parties are the party of money and only care about their billionaires lobbyists.

        We need to increase political engagement rather than stoking political apathy.

        I literally told them to vote socialist!! It is not political apathy just because the option is not a blue MAGA.

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            They are literally funding doing a genocide. Using police force to beat to a pulp and kill student protestors and banning media speaking against the genocide.

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              Okay but how does that make democrats fascist? It’s just Americas unwavering zionistic stance as a whole.