• @southerntofu
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    22 years ago

    Criticism must happen not against the oppressed (pro-Russian) narrative, but the dominant (pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine) narrative

    In what world do you live that there is an oppressed and dominant narrative? Both sides are trying to impose their own narrative for their own fucked up interests. Neither of those sides will be what local militants will tell you, as those have a common understanding (anti-war, anti-imperialist) of the situation from every side of the border/conflict.

    Russia needs to do a lot of catchup on whatever Anglo countries have done, for Russia to be equally called an empire.

    I’m not saying Russia is as evil as UK/France/USA. I’m not interested in playing a game of who’s less worse. This is not a game. This is real life and our comrades are suffering on both sides of the border.

    most of whatever is shown to paint Russia bad in the media is debunked as fake news

    Of course there’s disinformation on both sides, like during any political conflict. Where can you see me spreading fake news?

    Playing both sides trope when the media is suspiciously imbalanced against Russia is purely meant for grift purposes.

    I’m not doing “both sides”. I’m doing “neither side”. I chose my side, and i side with the people who struggle across this planet. I’m taking time to counter propaganda on both sides on these forums because i have higher expectations in terms of information/debate when it comes to Lemmy, and because some people need to take the side of the common people and militant antifascists and spread their analysis on the situation, when everyone else is spewing Washington/Kremlin propaganda.

    • @TheAnonymouseJokerOP
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      In what world do you live that there is an oppressed and dominant narrative? Both sides are trying to impose their own narrative

      On Earth. Maybe your head is in a different dimension, because Big Tech, all of news media and so on is showing one thing, and you are continuously trying to whitewash it by bashing the oppressed narrative.

      I’m not saying Russia is as evil as UK/France/USA.

      Indeed you have. You have repeatedly made claims of

      • “both are imperialist assholes”
      • “people who are no fools of the Russian/NATO propaganda”
      • “you support Russian fascism”
      • “you are a puppet of the Russian empire”
      • “carefully ignore that the Russian army is also full of nazis”
      • “anti-imperialist thinkers/fighters who oppose NATO are also opposing Putin’s imperialism on Ukraine”
      • “while many national outlet are spewing NATO propaganda, others are spewing Kremlin propaganda”
      • “geopolitical concerns between the two big empires (Russia and NATO)”
      • “Putin and NATO are two sides of the same colonialist garbage”

      and so on. You are continuously doing this wordsmith weaseling and it shows.

      Of course there’s disinformation on both sides

      Oh look, again.

      I’m not doing “both sides”. I’m doing “neither side”. I chose my side, and i side with the people who struggle across this planet.

      Oh you definitely do it.

      Which side are you on? Are you on the same side as Putin and NATO and other vampires playing the same game of geopolitics?

      I critiqued it yesterday already.

      Ukraine is not “the people”, their military has Nazis and they have oppressed “the people” of Donbas for 8 years. NATO has gaslighted Ukraine into its own destruction, and Russia has to protect itself from Aegis missile system. You are lying through teeth about “the people” here.

      There is nothing reasonable about putting NATO and Putin together, since NATO is a Nazism proponent, while Russia wants to do “denazification” of Ukraine. You are literally playing the Hitler card of calling Nationalist Fascism as National Socialism (Nat-Soc or Nazism). There is no “both sides” in being against Nazism