In theory sure but I guarantee the majority of these are chuds threatening the more progressive members of congress (or threatening regular Democrats because chud Media told them they are basically Stalin).
OK first of all Tlaib and Bush have been consistent on Palestine so thats not even true.
Second of all right wing political violence is bad! We should not support it regardless of our enjoyment for the victims because when they succeed they are empowered. Supporting fascists killing liberals is fucking stupid. What are you going to be like “based Attomwaffen” lol?
You managed to list two people who don’t deserve the wall, congrats.
I don’t care if fascists kill other fascists though. And that’s what liberals are. “Progressive” isn’t really a useful term as it means different things for different people. People here have a general idea of what you mean if you call someone a liberal though, at least that’s the case on hexbear.
I don’t care if fascists kill other fascists though. And that’s what liberals are.
And this is the ideological dead end that “liberals are the exact same thing as fascists” leads us to I guess. Actually believing that if an overtly fascist organization successfully assassinates a liberal public figure it would be a good thing because a “fascist” died. Like no, there is a material difference between liberals and fascists and I’m tired of people here saying otherwise partially because it leads to these absurd conclusions.
People here have a general idea of what you mean if you call someone a liberal though, at least that’s the case on hexbear.
Apparently not! Since it means two different things to you and me. If you think there’s no material difference between AOC and Attomwaffen, you are extremely lost.
Like would I mourn her as a individual person? No lol. Would I consider it a political loss for all of us? Absolutely. And not because of what I think AOC can accomplish or whatever. But because we don’t want the overtly fascist organizations to get a win. When they get a win, they seek more wins. They like winning. If you think that kind of increasing right wing political violence only gets aimed at liberals and not the actual left (or just completely innocent minorities) you got another thing coming lmao.
I wouldn’t even have liked it if “Hang Mike Pence” had worked out for them for this reason. Once it was a stated goal of the far far right, I didnt want it to happen, or at least not for them to do it. It would have been cool if we did it (if it was organized and had a stated, specific purpose and wasnt just random adventurism) but that wasn’t what was happening.
I’m not going to debate you on this. It’s a waste of my time and I have better shit to do. Have a good day.
Edit: you’re also grossly mischaracterizing me when you assume I think liberals and fascists are exactly the same. I’m simply not going to engage with you further on this.
Alright, I was going to take that as a disengage and move on before the edit, but as I understand the disengage rule, you saying something about me negates it because it becomes an attempt to get in the last word.
You said
I don’t care if fascists kill other fascists though. And that’s what liberals are.
How else was I meant to take that other than you think liberals and fascists are the same? You literally said so there lol. What else could “And that’s what liberals are” mean?
This seems more like it might be a polling issue given the rise of the internet since the 1990s. Nowadays It’s absolutely much easier for the average person to make a threat against a politician and get away with it than it was in the 90s.
Gotta be honest, that infographic is kinda uninformative wrt the actual rate of increase. You made me read! 💢
1 in 10 in the 1990s said violent action against the government can be justified
Serious threats against federal judges that trigger an investigation rose from 179 in 2019 to 457 in 2023
Threats against members of Congress are up nearly tenfold since 2015
Cool and good
In theory sure but I guarantee the majority of these are chuds threatening the more progressive members of congress (or threatening regular Democrats because chud Media told them they are basically Stalin).
Those “progressive” members of congress are complicit in genocide too.
I don’t have much sympathy to spare for them.
OK first of all Tlaib and Bush have been consistent on Palestine so thats not even true.
Second of all right wing political violence is bad! We should not support it regardless of our enjoyment for the victims because when they succeed they are empowered. Supporting fascists killing liberals is fucking stupid. What are you going to be like “based Attomwaffen” lol?
You managed to list two people who don’t deserve the wall, congrats.
I don’t care if fascists kill other fascists though. And that’s what liberals are. “Progressive” isn’t really a useful term as it means different things for different people. People here have a general idea of what you mean if you call someone a liberal though, at least that’s the case on hexbear.
And this is the ideological dead end that “liberals are the exact same thing as fascists” leads us to I guess. Actually believing that if an overtly fascist organization successfully assassinates a liberal public figure it would be a good thing because a “fascist” died. Like no, there is a material difference between liberals and fascists and I’m tired of people here saying otherwise partially because it leads to these absurd conclusions.
Apparently not! Since it means two different things to you and me. If you think there’s no material difference between AOC and Attomwaffen, you are extremely lost.
Like would I mourn her as a individual person? No lol. Would I consider it a political loss for all of us? Absolutely. And not because of what I think AOC can accomplish or whatever. But because we don’t want the overtly fascist organizations to get a win. When they get a win, they seek more wins. They like winning. If you think that kind of increasing right wing political violence only gets aimed at liberals and not the actual left (or just completely innocent minorities) you got another thing coming lmao.
I wouldn’t even have liked it if “Hang Mike Pence” had worked out for them for this reason. Once it was a stated goal of the far far right, I didnt want it to happen, or at least not for them to do it. It would have been cool if we did it (if it was organized and had a stated, specific purpose and wasnt just random adventurism) but that wasn’t what was happening.
I’m not going to debate you on this. It’s a waste of my time and I have better shit to do. Have a good day.
Edit: you’re also grossly mischaracterizing me when you assume I think liberals and fascists are exactly the same. I’m simply not going to engage with you further on this.
Alright, I was going to take that as a disengage and move on before the edit, but as I understand the disengage rule, you saying something about me negates it because it becomes an attempt to get in the last word.
You said
How else was I meant to take that other than you think liberals and fascists are the same? You literally said so there lol. What else could “And that’s what liberals are” mean?
458 now, bub.
This seems more like it might be a polling issue given the rise of the internet since the 1990s. Nowadays It’s absolutely much easier for the average person to make a threat against a politician and get away with it than it was in the 90s.
I like this math