I didn’t mean to respond seriously in a meme thread, but I do have to because of your response.Not more as with the meme in this thread. I think that the way of dressing is according to the taste of each one, which is oriented according to fashion and local conventions in each country.
A Mongolian warrior from centuries ago is not comparable with a current man in a suit or with the outfits of the characters in the images, where if one can allege the absence of criteria, a common scourge in current times.
No, obviously you don’t need to be serious in this thread, but ‘it was a joke’ is also no reason for me not to bring it up. The photo of the model makes sense. The next two don’t. The clothes the model is wearing are pushing fashion norms. The clothes would cause people to take note regardless of the individual wearing them. The clothes are supposed to. The second two pics are focused on the combination of person and fashion. If a young, cis-woman was wearing those clothes they would not be a fashion statement. The person is pushing gender and age norms not fashion norms. I don’t think it was your intent, but that sends the message that the person is wrong (not the clothes).
Rhetorical questions - Would you be comfortable showing this thread to the people pictured? How do you think each of the subjects would react to seeing it?
I always feel comfortable expressing my opinion, although I don’t think that showing the photos to these people will make much sense, since in their world it will seem normal to them, which is why I wouldn’t do it.
Apart from showing their mental state, they do not harm anyone, apart from causing others to bleed eyes.
The point of the rhetorical questions was as an exercise in empathy. Neither of us would actually know how the people would respond, so speculating back and forth isn’t particularly useful. I did say showing them the whole thread though. That means the pics in context.
Do you realize that you are taking issue with this person’s body, not their clothes?
Hmm I wonder where you get that from
Look only at the clothes. What do you see? Have you ever seen anyone wearing similar clothes? Where? Who? Why is this different?
I didn’t mean to respond seriously in a meme thread, but I do have to because of your response.Not more as with the meme in this thread. I think that the way of dressing is according to the taste of each one, which is oriented according to fashion and local conventions in each country. A Mongolian warrior from centuries ago is not comparable with a current man in a suit or with the outfits of the characters in the images, where if one can allege the absence of criteria, a common scourge in current times.
No, obviously you don’t need to be serious in this thread, but ‘it was a joke’ is also no reason for me not to bring it up. The photo of the model makes sense. The next two don’t. The clothes the model is wearing are pushing fashion norms. The clothes would cause people to take note regardless of the individual wearing them. The clothes are supposed to. The second two pics are focused on the combination of person and fashion. If a young, cis-woman was wearing those clothes they would not be a fashion statement. The person is pushing gender and age norms not fashion norms. I don’t think it was your intent, but that sends the message that the person is wrong (not the clothes).
Rhetorical questions - Would you be comfortable showing this thread to the people pictured? How do you think each of the subjects would react to seeing it?
I always feel comfortable expressing my opinion, although I don’t think that showing the photos to these people will make much sense, since in their world it will seem normal to them, which is why I wouldn’t do it. Apart from showing their mental state, they do not harm anyone, apart from causing others to bleed eyes.
The point of the rhetorical questions was as an exercise in empathy. Neither of us would actually know how the people would respond, so speculating back and forth isn’t particularly useful. I did say showing them the whole thread though. That means the pics in context.