• @abbenm
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    2 years ago

    You’re a crank and should be banned, and your performative claims of being “dehumanized” and insisting I need to “calm down” are indisputably in bad faith.

    President, head of CDC, head of NIAID didn’t say on tv it would prevent infection? Was that memory holed already?

    Vaccines are one of a number of causal forces at play in the fight to prevent covid. Vaccines are an input that does indeed prevent infection. However, people have to be vaccinated, and have to coordinate effectively to mask, avoid gatherings, and resist the spread of misinformation. Instead we had poor coordination, and open defiance of mandates.

    Instead of acknowledging the positive and negative roles played by independent forces, you merge them all together and use it to suggest vaccines themselves don’t prevent infection. Instead of looking at studies proving the efficacy of vaccines, you attribute unsourced vague claims that aren’t specifically about vaccine efficacy in order to imply they’re not effective. That’s bad faith.

    So you misrepresented an article about vaccine efficacy, referenced a website’s research that didn’t agree that ivermectin is a replacement for vaccines, made vague references to non-existent quotes to falsely suggest vaccines are ineffective, and like any typical troll, are trying to insulate yourself from criticism with grandiose claims of rights to free speech and not being dehumanized. You’re a crank and you should be banned.

    • @craftingwithbits
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      22 years ago

      You’re a crank and should be banned

      Interesting mantra.

      Anyway, I’d say this is a complex situation and there is some validity in your point of view and mine as well. I think it was a mistake to censor, smear early treatment and fire people even if they had acquired immunity. Seems cruel to me.

      I also think it is cruel to deny people early treatment due to gov edict instead of allowing doctors to treat their patients how they see fit.

      I think the policy of turning people away from the hospital until symptoms worsened instead of using early treatments was a massive mistake.

      I don’t pretend to have absolute infallible knowledge and wouldn’t advocate for censorship as the princple of free speech is precisely tested during strong disagreement.

      are trying to insulate yourself from criticism with grandiose claims of rights to free speech and not being dehumanized

      I personally would advise you not be so casually contemptous of those principles. I’m not trying to insulate myself from criticism. Only one of us has expressed a desire that the other be censored.