• @Zerush
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    22 years ago

    This is what the user can do, use software and services that do not use these spying techniques, but this is efficient in the first line when a large part of the users is aware of this problem, this should be the main task. We all here use Lemmy, Raddle, Diaspora, Mastodon, Friendica, and others to communicate, using decentralized networks, all kinds of extensions, front ends, and VPNs to avoid this surveillance.

    All of this would not be necessary, if this surveillance and censorship did not exist on the Internet. But as I said before, this, apart from initiatives by consumer associations and legislators, requires the activity of the user himself who boycotts companies that use these criminal techniques, which has even expanded into the OpenSource field, since Big Tech has gotten involved. also there widely.

    With the use of the Smartphone things have even worsened, to which almost all OS are directly controlled by Google, MS and Apple, if you cannot root and install a distro, such as LineageOS or similar. There is also no use in using decentralized networks, since the same OS is controlling us.

    Among the users here all this is mainly well known, but this should also be spread among those who use shit like Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram and the like massively, unaware of having become simple raw material to enrich the oligopolies.

    The initiatives are underway with increasing force, but there is still a long way to go and a lot of common sense among users, this must be transmitted by all of us who can, starting with our children, family and friends. I do at least.

    • CHEF-KOCH
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      12 years ago

      Yeah I see, the thing is that the average user cannot see any difference between spying techniques, legitimate telemetry or is simply not aware of some alternatives. You cannot expect everyone to research stuff like we do and some people are cheap that following influencer, and they usually use TikTok, Facebook etc.

      I fully agree with you that the main priority must be to make people aware of things, this is what some organizations doing, since years, persistently and often without any profit. But you cannot expect someone to fight, giving his time and money for absolute nothing, so there is a relationship between people and organizations fighting for us because they simply need support and donations to establish changes on a bigger scale and this requires media attention and lots of money. My opinion here is that we should first support such things because you can use apps all day you want, it does not change the law and if such apps are declared illegal then your effort is useless or only a workaround.

      I do not think the web is broken, we have here some very good people which shows that the web itself is not an issue, I think most people here come to an agreement that Big Tech is the real threat to free speech, surveillance and stuff that directly benefits themselves instead of all of us - which is the web. I think the web is like security, a concept which you constantly need to work on, together to make the idea reality.

      • @Zerush
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        12 years ago

        Agree with you. Naturally developers and companies do not work for love, but they also have to pay their bills, especially if it is a service that needs a certain infrastructure, servers, etc. But there are many other possibilities to earn money that do not put the privacy and security of the user at risk. It is no longer a lack of privacy if your personal data circulates on the network, but this is a serious security risk, since once these data are sold to who knows, there is no possible control as they are treated or protected. It is not the first time that hundreds of thousands of personal data have been leaked from FB, Google and others, including banking and medical data. This is the underlying problem, not just that Google reads your Gmail.