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  • agamemnonymousOPtoSocialismFixing the Marketing Problem
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    2 years ago

    Do you think? Idealism is nice and all, but memetics seems to be winning elections these days. “Education” and “fighting propaganda” sound very noble but I’m not sure that’s realistic or effective, unfortunately. Adhesion to particular terminology distracts from the underlying principles. If you can’t rephrase your pretense to appeal to the proletariat of any age, it doesn’t really represent them, and is merely another exploitation attempt.


  • Eh, good content was less and less common in a sea of low effort fluff and reposts. Once I started actively blocking subreddits I didn’t care about, I got deeper into the fluff much more quickly.

    There will always be nerds pooling quality content. Reddit was the best place for that for a while, but like all pools it had grown stagnant. I’m excited to witness the revitalization afforded by migration. The site is just a site. It was nice, but all things must pass, and metamorphize in passing.


  • I understand, but still believe that focuses on siphoning voters purely from the left, which relatively empowers the right. My approach relies on pulling voters from the right as well by an intelligently developed platform, creating a viable third party instead of splitting what “left” party presently exists into a politically impotent leftist party and a politically impotent liberal party, forfeiting every election to a psychotic neofascist party by default.

    Meaningful engagement of the nominally right wing proletariat is absolutely crucial. You just have to meet them where they live with terms they haven’t been indoctrinated to hate reflexively.


  • That’s precisely my point. The movement is up against capitalists with resources to soil the term. Faith in truth and education isn’t going to do it. These policies need punchy branding that can’t be villainized without subverting market economies themselves. Carving out a portion of the left from neo-liberals just dilutes voting power and hands elections to fascists. The only viable solution is branding to pull voters from the left and right wing bases.



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    I disagree. I don’t think waiting for conservative reactionaries to die out is a viable methodology. Yes, millennials and gen Z slant left, but it’s not unanimous (I know several personally who grew up petit bourgeoisie and think capitalism is the only way) and gen X will be around for decades to come. Deciding that the hypnotized are worthless is not viable. The policies are popular, we need to reach those who would benefit on a broad scale before 2060.


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    You say that, and yet right wing politicians consistently win elections by doing exactly that. Policies that explicitly hurt right wing voters at the benefit of the bourgeoisie are hidden behind bluster and culture war hot button issues.

    That said, I’m not advocating ignorance. There’s no “Gotcha!” moment. I’m advocating an honest movement which merely chooses less stigmatized, and less stigmatizable, vocabulary to express its sincere policies.




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    Healthcare and UBI are generally considered “politically” socialist. The one actually (economically) socialist concept I brought up was workplace socialization. A co-op or ESOP model gives the workers in a company meaningful ownership thereof: if the shareholders and employees of a company are the same group, profits go to the workers.