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    Some bring up massive grain exports during the famine to show that the Soviet Union exported food while Ukraine starved. This is fallacious for a number of reasons, but most importantly of all the amount of aid that was sent to Ukraine alone actually exceeded the amount that was exported at the time.

    could you provide a source on that?

    like yeah, there was a lower harvest at the time, but the blame is still put on the ussr planners for overextracting food supplies from sovhozes as well as rejection of foreign aid

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        3 years ago

        oops, i didn’t realize this quote was also from that link 😬

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          To be clear, the famine was a huge tragedy that resulted in massive loss of life. And poor planning did play a role in this crisis. However, it was by no means an engineered crisis or a an inevitable outcome of the soviet system.

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            3 years ago

            so uuuh, i’ve been going through the sources in the study you’ve linked, which is an interesting study btw, it relies in many places on Iztestiia (which is a CPSS run newspaper btw, so idk how much we can rely on it to truthfully convey whatever happened if it painted them in a bad way) and also Spravochnik partiinogo rabotnika

            i’ve searched for these online, and i can’t really find free archived versions of, i could probably go to the local library and possibly find the necessary exerpts there, but before that i wanted to see if i could get it online :)

            do you by any chance have access to archives of them?

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              I don’t have the archives either unfortunately, let me know if you do manage to track them down though.