On Wednesday twitch changed their site rules to allow artistic nudity. The policy allowed streams to display nonsexual nudity as long as the stream is tagged, so that the stream would be hidden from the front page. Twitch rescinded the policy 2 days later.

  • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    So weird the moral panic that was happening from this lmao. People are way too obsessed with kids seeing nudity, every generation grew up trying to see porn, from boomer magazines to fuzzy ppv on channels you didn’t have access to to sneaking it on a laptop, I don’t see how this is effectively different lol.

    Whatsmore is that there’s this pretending like the Internet isn’t one giant ecosystem. There’s literally nothing stopping kids from opening up pornhub, or if it’s blocked some other million sites to choose from, on another tab and saying they’re 18 lol. Why does it fucking matter if twitch allows some nudity on there?

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      11 months ago

      Why does it fucking matter if twitch allows some nudity on there?

      It does to advertisers who don’t want their product associated with that. Also, Hexbear doesn’t allow nudity / porn partly because it doesn’t fit the culture that the mod team wants to cultivate, same goes for Twitch

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      Apparently this is a hot take: porn should be age-gated.

      Nudity isn’t the same thing as porn and while you can argue that twitch’s new policy bans too much, it’s inarguable that many streams were pornographic. Kids shouldn’t be suggested streams of girls twerking on their Fortnite website.

      Also I think pornhub and similar porn sites should do more to filter out children.

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        11 months ago

        it’s not a hot take, it’s what everyone is saying in the discourse. i’m saying there’s nothing to be done about it and kids looking for porno and finding it before they’re of age is a ubiquitous experience throughout multiple generations and i do not think this is particularly different.

        you can dislike this but i mean it’s just reality.

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          There is something to be done about it… like not hosting porn on the same website that kids use to watch Minecraft, for starters. And it’s being shown to everyone, not just people that are looking for it.

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            I’m saying it’s one tab over, no matter what. The Internet is one giant place.

            I grew up on the internet, I’m talking about my own experience lol.

            I think it’s denying reality to think that taking porn off one website somehow makes it any safer for kids when they can literally open a browser tab and go to 4chan at the same time they’re watching twitch.

            Put a little “are you 18 and older” pop up in front of the channel and filter it out of the main content feed, or have a setting to “view adult content” with a parental lock on it for the ones paying any attention

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              Respectfully, that’s a terrible attitude to have. If you can’t think past your horny self, then think of the girls who have to grow up seeing women sexualized in the games they play and on the websites they use.

              Taking porn off a website makes that website safer for kids, that’s not denying reality. It’s not that complicated dude. By your logic, every website including this one should be flooded with gore too because anyone can “literally open a browser tab and go to 4chan at the same time”

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                I’m just saying it’s not worth having a moral panic about, not that it doesn’t make sense to moderate and filter content. Or at least that is what I’m intending to say rather.

                I.e. I don’t buy “think of the children” arguments because there is much, much worse shit going on than a kid seeing some boobs.

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          Yeah some people on the Internet act like kids start (or should start) puberty at 18. they don’t, sorry guys. The answer is actually decent sex ed and specifically teaching them how to protect themselves from creeps, not trying to gate porn behind a driver license or whatever the Mormons think of next

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            Exactly. It’s all very protestant to be moralizing about it like this, it’s not good.

            Not going to get into the violence vs nudity thing, but I mean there’s plenty of very gory and toxic video games out there, viewable on twitch, that are probably more damaging, or at least world view effecting, than seeing a tit

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      Porn should not be in spaces not specifically for it. It’s distracting and at times disgusting when it’s where it doesn’t belong.