Anti-immigration comes in part from , which is not a liberal view. Opposing immigration from non-white countries while accepting immigrants from white countries is racism, and that’s usually more associated with conservatives talking exclusively about Mexicans.
that’s usually more associated with conservatives talking exclusively about Mexicans
Well since you mentionned Mexicans I suppose you’re basing your analysis on US politics rather than specifically EU politics is that right? I agree that it is imperial core in both cases but there are a few nuances.
In my experience with French politics, anti-Muslim / anti-Arab sentiment (a lot more prevalent since our immigrants are from the African continent) can be found all over the political spectrum, including social-democrats and self-proclaimed Communists.
The US Democratic Party might do more posturing, even with the Biden administration quietly pursuing Trumps policies. But in the end my point is that they have the same foundational racism that is linked to the material basis of the development of capitalism in the global north, settlers colonialism and genocide for the US and massive colonial empires for the EU
You are correct. As a typical American, I had forgotten that the rest of the world existed.
Although it’s worth mentioning that on a global stage, American “liberal” isn’t saying much. Both our major parties are pretty conservative, our “conservative” party just says the quiet parts out loud and copies their agenda out of ancient poetry.
Conservatives are liberals, too. I read the top comment in this thread as distinguishing between the far right (fascist or fascist-adjacent, some of whom pose as or are conservatives) and liberals (conservatives, ‘progressives’, radlibs, and all the radical tendencies that talk about revolution but whose actions reveal them as liberals).
So in the US, that both parties appear to be conservative is because they’re both liberal parties. (For now. They both have cryptos and far right members who will be leading the charge to fascism when it comes to it if we’re not already there.)
They do?
Anti-immigration comes in part from , which is not a liberal view. Opposing immigration from non-white countries while accepting immigrants from white countries is racism, and that’s usually more associated with conservatives talking exclusively about Mexicans.
Well since you mentionned Mexicans I suppose you’re basing your analysis on US politics rather than specifically EU politics is that right? I agree that it is imperial core in both cases but there are a few nuances.
In my experience with French politics, anti-Muslim / anti-Arab sentiment (a lot more prevalent since our immigrants are from the African continent) can be found all over the political spectrum, including social-democrats and self-proclaimed Communists.
The US Democratic Party might do more posturing, even with the Biden administration quietly pursuing Trumps policies. But in the end my point is that they have the same foundational racism that is linked to the material basis of the development of capitalism in the global north, settlers colonialism and genocide for the US and massive colonial empires for the EU
You are correct. As a typical American, I had forgotten that the rest of the world existed.
Although it’s worth mentioning that on a global stage, American “liberal” isn’t saying much. Both our major parties are pretty conservative, our “conservative” party just says the quiet parts out loud and copies their agenda out of ancient poetry.
Conservatives are liberals, too. I read the top comment in this thread as distinguishing between the far right (fascist or fascist-adjacent, some of whom pose as or are conservatives) and liberals (conservatives, ‘progressives’, radlibs, and all the radical tendencies that talk about revolution but whose actions reveal them as liberals).
So in the US, that both parties appear to be conservative is because they’re both liberal parties. (For now. They both have cryptos and far right members who will be leading the charge to fascism when it comes to it if we’re not already there.)